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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 04:05 PM
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Obama sits down with seniors
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/08/456047.aspx

From NBC/NJ’s Aswini Anburajan
OTTUMWA, IA -- On Day Two of Obama’s “Change You Can Believe in Tour,” he sat down with senior citizens in Ottumwa, Iowa to discuss retirement security. The discussion, which focused on the importance of saving for retirement and the difficulties of living on social security, allowed Obama to present himself as a candidate who could appeal and relate to an elderly class of voters.

Obama also criticized Clinton for criticizing a bankruptcy law that he said would have hurt American consumers. Just yesterday, Obama introduced a smorgasbord of proposals for the middle class, which included a proposal to strengthen bankruptcy laws in favor of consumers. Obama has increased his outreach to seniors in recent weeks. He has campaigned in rural areas, discussing the importance of keeping young people in these communities, which have seen dwindling populations. He also gave a speech propose to protect social security just two weeks ago.

Today, he released an ad entitled “High and Dry” that features an Iowa man, Dave Hartgrave, whose says his pension was cut to $379 per month when his company, Farmstsead, decided to pull $19 million from its pension fund. Workers received only 25 cents on the dollar for every dollar they should have received.

The case is an older one, dating back to the early 90s, but with Enron still a household name, it remains relevant for most Americans. The ad and the roundtable allowed Obama to underscore his message on special interests. On the stump, he says he is the only candidate in the race who has a significant body of legislation that has taken money out of politics, touting legislation he has passed with Republican Tom Coburn to make government spending transparent and his ethics reform bill with Democrat Russ Feingold.

The event was followed by a town hall in which Obama took questions about pension security, the war in Iraq, and why he was a better change candidate than the other Democrats in the race.

NOTE: Ottumwa is the hometown of Radar, the fictional character of the TV show MASH.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 04:06 PM
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1. Damage control. nm.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 04:07 PM
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2. Not. nt
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 04:17 PM
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8. is. nt
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 05:05 PM
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11. 1st..thought...they threw rotten tomatoes..2nd..damage control..
wait until they go home and watch the news!

There is not a group of people that know how to be mightily pissed off then Baby Boomers..

Obama is messin' with the wrong crowd! His a** is grass!
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 04:16 PM
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7. Thats putting it lightly.
He thought he could screw the Seniors like he did with the GLBT community. If you want my honest opinion, I like his campaign style!
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 05:01 PM
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10. For what? He proposed a major tax break for seniors making less than $50,000 weeks ago.
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 05:01 PM by Dawgs
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 05:08 PM
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12. We don't want a few crumbs tossed our way from Obama! Who does he think he is?
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 04:08 PM
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3. Huh?
"Obama also criticized Clinton for criticizing a bankruptcy law that he said would have hurt American consumers"
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 04:10 PM
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4. Reporter must have screwed that one up.
Doesn't make sense.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 04:12 PM
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6. It doesn't make sense at all.
Perhaps Obama was making to her early vote for the 2001 bankruptcy bill (if memory serves she voted one way in committee then eventually voted against the final version)?

Because she missed the 2005 vote (though spoke against it) while Bill was having surgery.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 04:26 PM
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9. Well, I know you'll have a good old time with it
if he criticizes her for a missed vote.

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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 04:11 PM
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5. Obama's plan is almost identical to Clintons, only less generous
So much for new ideas from Obama
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 05:09 PM
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13. did he have Dr. Kevorkian with him? To reach out? nt.
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hijinx87 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 05:15 PM
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14. the AARP isn't to be trifled with n/t
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