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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:01 PM
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All this talk about the babyboom generation and Obama reminds me of another jerk
Who dared to speak about a changing of the Guard. Remember when he said:

"Let the word go forth from this time and place, to friend and foe alike, that the torch has been passed to a new generation of Americans."

Yeah, what an asshole he turned out to be.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:02 PM
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1. Senator Obama, you are no Jack Kennedy
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:02 PM
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2. Truth.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:03 PM
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3. Well played...
Not correct,time will tell, but well played
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:09 PM
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9. LOL. What a setup. nt
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:15 PM
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15. i must have missed where obama said he was....
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:17 PM
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17. The OP is making the comparison
Also the Obama campaign likes to trot out Sorensen, JFK's speech writer, to do the same.
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:21 PM
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21. But you didn't know Jack Kennedy; Ted Sorensen did and he disagrees with you
In any case, the OP was just comparing their words on this specific issue. That doesn't mean he's saying Obama will be the next JFK. It's a common logical error to make, so don't feel bad.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:04 PM
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4. Come on Obama is a good guy what he was trying to say is there has been nothing but....
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 07:05 PM by bigdarryl
baby boom Presidents except maybe Reagan and old man Bush and nothings been done.It just came off wrong he isn't the enemy
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:06 PM
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5. I don't think you got my point Big D.nt
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:06 PM
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6. I'm noticing a lot less faux Obama outrage since I put a bunch of Clinton supporters on ignore
Funny how that worked. Made it really easy to see who's been driving it.
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:27 PM
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30. Sense when does the boomers tell the party what to do if i...
Oh, well, you know the rest.:evilgrin:
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:07 PM
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7. Did JFK ever say a whole generation was an obstacle to change?
This OP is reminiscent of how Obama supporters didn't understand the significance of Obama giving a mic to a homophobe
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:08 PM
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8. Jesus H. Christ...and I don't swear but this deserves it.
There is no way in hell that Obama can even be compared to John F. Kennedy. We know Obama supporters would like to make the connection BUT IT SURE AS HELL AIN'T THERE.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:10 PM
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10. First you have to at least
win a national election I would say.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:12 PM
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11. Thanks for the insite..but you don't really have enough information to make that statement
If you remember your history, JFK was considered a poor candidate in his first election, too young, too inexperienced, too green.

You can't judge a man against other Presidents, until that man is President himself.
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:34 PM
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32. Uhmmm...excuse me...if "You can't judge a man against other Presidents..."
"...until that man is President himself" then why did YOU compare Obama to Kennedy in YOUR OP? Just asking...
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:12 PM
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12. Same response as before:
Obama is not a new generation, and there's nothing wise about him trashing the very people who made it possible for a black man to run for president.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:13 PM
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13. John F. Kennedy was speaking about the very generation Obama is slighting n/t
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:17 PM
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16. John Kennedy would be 80 years old this year
Amazing isn't it?
Actually Kennedy was talking about the WWII generation replacing old man Eisenhower's.
I remember my parents bitching about how senile Eisenhower seemed toward the end.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:28 PM
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31. He Would Be Ninety
He was born in 1917...
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:19 PM
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19. And I'm sure the previous generation felt slighted and pissed off...
nt
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:24 PM
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23. Yep, but they deserved it
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 07:30 PM by goodgd_yall
What change did they fight for? That generation is marked by fear of communism and the spread of atheism. And never questioning authority. A new guard was surely needed.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:14 PM
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14. Did JFK bring that message to FoxNews and Pat Robertson's CBN?
Did he fault the changemakers vs the entrenched power?
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:18 PM
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18. Maybe I'm not reading you right....
but are you saying that the baby boom isn't the entrenched power?
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:20 PM
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20. The culture warriors of the left are not in power.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:22 PM
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22. The baby boom generation certainly is..
They may have lost the fire in their belly, but thats the generation in power right now.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:25 PM
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25. Baby boom does not equate with 60s/70s activists
And it's the latter Obama was referring to.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:53 PM
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26. Yes, it does, just about
60s/70s activists were baby boomers.
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:23 PM
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29. Plus, Obama spoke of the battles they fought disparagingly
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:39 PM
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34. But, what I'm getting at is
Not all baby boomers were 60s/70s activists. There's been a lot of posting about baby boomers as though the two were the same.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:24 PM
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24. Yeah, right
Obama is no JFK. :rofl:
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:57 PM
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27. I've seen some dispute in drawing the dates for belonging to
the 'boomers'. I suspect the real line is pre-kennedy/post-kennedy. There is a huge change of culture beginning in those years, coinciding with the presidency of Kennedy. I would suggest that post-kennedy kids have a different take on the world than the 'boomers'. IMHO
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:46 PM
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35. Dispute...perhaps...but the Cencus Bureau has defined it...
Others can take up their dispute with them. Baby Boomers were born between 1946 and 1964. Check the link if you question it.


http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/facts_for_features_special_editions/006105.html
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:22 PM
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28. It only proves JFK could be a jerk, too.
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:38 PM
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33. Excellent analogy...they are both men of honor, integrity, and great vision. nt
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