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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:25 PM
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Obama Won't Show for Mukasey Vote
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/

November 08, 2007
Obama Won't Show for Mukasey Vote

Barack Obama, on a bus tour through Iowa the last two days, will miss the Senate vote tonight to confirm Michael Mukasey for attorney general, according to a spokesman.

"Sen. Obama won't be going back to DC tonight to vote for Mukasey," said Robert Gibbs, Obama's communications director. "He's already announced his position on it. I don't think the vote will be close."

Obama has told reporters on the trail with him that he could not support a nominee unwilling to be candid about his feelings on torture, according to NBC/NJ's Aswini Anburajan.

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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:26 PM
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1. Who didn't know that. He has missed 80% of his votes.
Every single time there is a conterversary in the vote Obama doesn't show up. AND if you don't believe me, go to the congressional record...where I found it.
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fightindonkey Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:06 AM
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81. LMAO!
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:09 AM
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82. Who wants another 20% Bush-like President?
If this "Senate thing" is taking up too much of his time why doesn't he just up and quit like Edwards did?
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:11 AM
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83. None of the Senator candidates for president voted, Bitwit! Check the roll call, why don't ya!
Vote Summary

Question: On the Nomination (Confirmation Michael B. Mukasey of New York, to be Attorney General )

Vote Number: 407 Vote Date: November 8, 2007, 11:04 PM
Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Nomination Confirmed

Nomination Number: PN958
Nomination Description: Michael B. Mukasey, of New York, to be Attorney General

Vote Counts: YEAs 53
NAYs 40
Not Voting 7

Not Voting - 7

Alexander (R-TN)
Biden (D-DE)
Clinton (D-NY)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Dodd (D-CT)
McCain (R-AZ)
Obama (D-IL)

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00407
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:28 PM
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Oh, dear.
The vote won't be close so his vote won't matter, and he opposes it out loud beforehand.

Let the evisceration begin.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:33 PM
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6. yeah let's have a president who won't show up for work because it's not worth the bother nt
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:36 PM
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11. He's doing the work his supporters want him to do.
Run for president and be there for the votes that make a difference.

The sphincter police are using Obama's attendance record as a lame cudgel, the very same tact used against John Kerry in 2004.
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:38 PM
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16. Are you really that blind?
How could you really believe that voting is optional?:shrug:
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:45 PM
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22. How about doing the work his CONSTITUENTS want him to do
or is representing his state too much to ask?
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:57 PM
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34. I'm not one of his constituents, but if I were,
I would be pretty damn mad. What is wrong with him, he is getting some really bad advice I think!!

By not taking a stand on the record, he will be seen as showing a lack of leadership....the death nell for anyone running for president!
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:03 PM
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37. He did the same with Kyle/Lieberman
He thinks it was an important vote, but he skipped that one too. When he was in the State Legislature, he ducked a bunch of votes on abortion
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:10 PM
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39. I was just thinking the same thing, but I didn't want
to pile on! I'm really shocked at BO. How will people know where he stands if he DOESN'T TAKE A STAND?

I hope his constituents will e-mail this thread to him or send one of their own.n BAD STRATEGY..........especially when you are running for president!
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:50 PM
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30. This isn't a vote congratulating the Red Sox for winning the World Series
I think it's important enough to interrupt a campaign trip - it is what he's getting paid for.

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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 10:02 AM
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86. Clinton, Dodd, and Biden didn't make it back for the vote either.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 10:02 AM
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85. Clinton, Dodd, and Biden didn't make it back for the vote either.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:33 PM
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It's not about that...
Who the hell cares that the vote won't be close enough for Obama to effect an outcome? That's not the issue.

The issue at hand is that he is a U.S. Senator. And he should want to add his voice to the Congressional Record as being against Mukasey.

It's one thing to say you are against someone or something. But you should back that up with a VOTE. It's about going on record WITH YOUR VOTE.

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:37 PM
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14. Well, that would be your opinion and your remedy is don't vote for him.
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:39 PM
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18. Yeah...that is the perfect remedy. Don't vote for Obama...
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:38 PM
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17. i think it`s the---
fuck this bullshit-i`m out of here... after the two republicans, oh wait, they are democrats caved, why in the hell should anyone waste their time...
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:28 PM
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2. actions speak louder than words.
He is suggesting that voicing his opinion on it is sufficient?
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:28 PM
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3. One of the most important votes that will impact the US and
he doesn't show up? Unacceptable...by any Democratic Nominee
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:30 PM
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4. Obama should just quit the Senate. He's not doing his job. Why is he there?
His people seem to think that just because the vote won't be close enough for Obama to effect the outcome....means Obama doesn't need to vote. That's an absurd conclusion.

How about wanting to add your voice to the Congressional Record? As a U.S. Senator, he should want to be noted in the Congressional Record as having voted NO on Mukasey. It's one thing to say you are against him. LET YOUR VOTE PROVE IT!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:35 PM
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10. that would seem to be up to the people of illinois
to decide whether he should stay or go...
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:50 PM
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28. Like I said, he could and should resign. He has the power and the ability
to tender his resignation and say 'I'm no longer effective in this position.'
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:01 PM
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36. If BO keeps this up, he may not
have a senate seat to return to next time......this is the third time in last few months, and it's getting noticed......
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 11:33 PM
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53. Oh dear, Hillary didn't vote either.
Care to rephrase?
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 12:02 AM
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56. NO!!!!
But you could answer my PM, you little devil you....LOL
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 12:05 AM
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59. YES!!!
I will very soon.

Isn't politics fun? Aaaarrgggghhhh!!!!
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 12:19 AM
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60. Did you finally give-up on Gore??? What about Gore for a cabinet post?
Energy Czar....focus on renewal energies and saving the f---king planet......
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 01:28 AM
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 11:32 PM
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52. Should your "girl" do the same...
since she didn't bother to show up for the vote either? :shrug:
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:32 PM
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5. A definite mark against Obama, IMO. n/t
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:33 PM
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7. I like Obama very much
but this is ridiculous.
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Prism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:43 PM
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21. Agreed
I like Obama very much.

However, this vote is important. Furthermore, as my senator, his vote is effectively my vote.

I would like it if the people of Illinois who voted for the senator, as I did, had their voice recorded in matters like whether or not the United States of America condones torture.

I understand running for president requires a rigorous travelling schedule. I'm not going to get on him for his general attendance record. That's the reality of a campaign.

But I wish he was in D.C. for this one.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:45 PM
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23. I agree
I don't expect 100% attendance, but come on. He's missing all the big votes, and that's just inexcusable.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:47 PM
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26. My sentiments exactly. n/t
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:33 PM
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8. That's sort of chickenshit, just like his recent remarks about Hillary being "disingenuous"
http://www.newsweek.com/id/67934/page/1

NEWSWEEK: Hillary's team says she was ganged up on by men in last week's debate. Does she get or deserve special treatment because she is a woman?
OBAMA: I don't think that Senator Clinton would ever suggest that she should be treated differently because she's a woman. And I actually thought that everybody was very courteous in their disagreements with her. We had a debate in Iowa which George Stephanopoulos presided over, and for the first 10, 15 minutes people were questioning my qualifications for the presidency. I don't remember anybody worrying too much about that … We're not running for student council president, we're running for leader of the free world.

How would you describe her response on the question of her First Lady papers?
Her response was certainly inadequate. When she suggested somehow she didn't have control over whether or not these papers were being released—what we're talking about here is her husband's presidential library. And when she is making a suggestion that part of the experience that she brings to this office is her experience as First Lady, people have a right to ask some tough questions. She can release these papers.

So is she being honest?
I think she was being disingenuous.

What's the difference between disingenuous and dishonest?
You'll have to ask her.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:34 PM
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9. been telling y'all he's same old same old. not inspired at all.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:37 PM
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12. Guess he's got all the experience he needs.
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 09:37 PM by Skip Intro
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:37 PM
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13. Obama will vote by osmosis.
He is a complete joke as a senator. Why does anyone think he would be ANY different as president. No experience AND irresponsible! What a combo.
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Fed_Up_Grammy Donating Member (923 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:40 PM
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19. Obama became a senator for the same reason that
Romney became Governor of Massachusetts.

Steppingstone jobs.
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:46 PM
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24. U.S. Senators should vote on legislation. It's part of the job description...
It's why his constituents put him in office. Not to be used as stepping-stones. I realize he needs to campaign but he still needs to vote. If he can't do both what is he going to do IF (god forbid) he became president?
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:55 PM
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33. Hillary became a senator for the same reason that
Romney became Governor of Massachusetts.

Steppingstone jobs.


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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:37 PM
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15. His vote matters,
even if it won't change the outcome, his vote should be cast and recorded.
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:43 PM
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20. Obama would miss voting for himself if the election were "close".
This is just unbelievable.:grr:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:46 PM
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25. Oh, but he's announced his position and says he against him
Ooooooooh!!!!!

This guy is not ready for prime time and the big leagues. The Republican Noise Machine would cut him down like an oak tree if he was nominated.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:48 PM
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27. He always seems to miss the controversial votes...
Guess he's not into icky fights like that.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:50 PM
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31. It's political cowardice. eom
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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:50 PM
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29. That's our senator milquetoast!!
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:51 PM
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32. Which way is Biden voting?
n/t
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:01 PM
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35. He's voting against - and I'm just hoping like hell he's there tonight! nt
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 10:06 AM
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87. Biden did not vote, nor did Clinton or Dodd...they didn't make it back in time.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:04 PM
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38. I'm surprised Obama is skipping this vote after the flak he received for the
Iran vote. His die-hard supporters may not care, but it's risky possibly pissing off those who are on the fence.

Plus, I'd like to have seen him come back to vote just on a HUMANE level. If that makes sense.
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:17 PM
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40. When was the vote scheduled?
Sometimes Senators get stuck in a bind by the way the votes are scheduled if it doesn't give them time to rearrange their schedules and get back.

When they were in charge, the Republicans used to screw around with the Democrats by scheduling votes when they knew it would be hard for them to get back - and then orchestrating a close vote that made it look like the missing Senators' votes would have made a difference. This wreaked havoc on Kerry and Edwards back in 2004.

But I'm surprised that before scheduling the vote, Harry Reid did not quietly check with the Senators who are running in order to make sure that he was scheduling a vote at a time that they could all make it so one or more of them didn't end up looking bad.

Regardless, it's a shame that Obama isn't making this vote - even though his vote won't make a difference, he will catch hell for it.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:18 PM
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41. Obama should be there for this vote. It doesn't matter if the vote won't be close.
I don't expect him to be in the Senate for every single vote, but he should be there for the votes on controversial and important issues.

If this is true, this is a fuck up on his and his campaign manager's part. He had enough time to get back for this vote unlike the Kyle/Lieberman vote.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:22 PM
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42. Obama is a good man
Sadly, I think his priorities are wrong. I'll like to see him run for Governor and get some Executive Experience.
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:32 PM
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43. Maybe Reid misled Obama as to when the vote was being cast.
nt
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:35 PM
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44. Apparently, the Reid spent the day negotiating with the Republicans about when to bring
this to the floor for a vote, so it's likely the vote wasn't scheduled until later today.

Sounds like Reid got rolled.

Again.

Part of being the Democratic Leader is protecting your troops - all of them - so none of them get caught up short on these kinds of things.

But this is the same leader who brought Southwick to a floor vote because the Republicans told him to, so what can you expect?
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:37 PM
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45. I dont think "Obama was duped" works well for your candidate
but maybe that's just me
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:42 PM
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46. Actually, "Obama was duped" works great for my candidate.
nt
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:49 PM
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48. touche
my bad
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:45 PM
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47. I agree - but it is possible that Reid screwed him on the vote
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 10:46 PM by beaconess
by scheduling it too late for Obama to get back for it. Reid has a way of scheduling things according to when the Republicans want to vote without any regard for what the folks on his own side need him to do.

For example, he did that on Southwick a couple of weeks ago. Announced on the floor with no warning to anyone that he was going to move Southwick because the Republicans wanted him to. No one had time to get organized to mount a strong filibuster fight or do much of anything else.

So, I wouldn't be surprised if Reid, once again, got played like a violin by the Republicans who pushed for an immediate vote and he just rolled over like he often does, without bothering to try to accommodate the schedules of Senators who are out of town (especially since it's not unusual for Senators to schedule things for Thursday night as the Senate often recesses on Thursdays).

FYI - before I get attacked by the Obama haters, I do not have a candidate in this fight, so don't start with me. I call 'em like I see 'em.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 11:19 PM
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49. You might be right. I haven't heard Biden, Clinton or Dodd's name for the "nay" votes yet.
They might not be there either.
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 11:29 PM
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51. According to CBS, Reid threatened to postpone the vote until December
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 11:31 PM by beaconess
"The debate came after a tense day of negotiations that at one point featured Majority Leader Harry Reid threatening to postpone Mukasey's confirmation until December."

So, at some point today, Reid was threatening to postpone the vote until December, but ended up scheduling the vote for tonight.

Yeah, that'll show those Republicans!

http://cbs2.com/politics/politicsnational_story_312191908.html
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 11:28 PM
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50. Obama stated last week he wouldn't vote for Mukasey, so did Clinton, did she show up either?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 11:48 PM
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54. Perhaps if there had been forewarning that the vote would be tonight
it seems Reid moved it up.
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ripple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 11:57 PM
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55. Oh, the outrage!!!!!!!!!
And exactly how would his vote make a difference?

Obama is doing what he needs to do to change the nation. Showing up to vote on a foregone conclusion (thanks in no small part to Schumer and Feinstein) doesn't happen to be at the top of the list right now. Personally, I appreciate his ability to prioritize. Hell, I'm counting on it.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 12:04 AM
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57. Isn't this typical DU?
A rabid pile-on for not voting when it turns out none of them voted. And then when that tiny fact is exposed, it's "whoops." I'm calling bullshit on yet another episode of hypocrisy.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 12:20 AM
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61. all Senators who didn't vote on this
should be faulted.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 10:08 AM
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89. Then fault Clinton, Dodd and Biden too.
they didn't make it back for the vote either.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 12:04 AM
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58. Its fake outage because it none of the candidates voted on it. . .
:kick:
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 01:13 AM
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62. Obama simply doesn't want to exclude torturers from his big tent.
Edited on Fri Nov-09-07 01:15 AM by Harvey Korman
Not that he agrees with them, mind you. He's already expressed his disagreement. But making the effort to vote against them would be going too far.

Why are you so intolerant of people with different viewpoints? :)
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 07:57 AM
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79. It would have been nice if any of them had made the effort. nt
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 10:07 AM
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88. Does that mean Clinton, Dodd, and Biden support them as well?
They also missed the vote...they couldn't get back in time because Reid pushedthe vote.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 01:17 AM
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 06:18 AM
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77. Stop looking in the mirror when you type.
nt
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 07:17 AM
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78. Well, that's one vote he can't accuse Hillary of copying off him
:shrug:
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:05 AM
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80. I don't know about that
Maybe she copied after him and didn't show up to vote.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 09:59 AM
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84. Neither will Biden, Dodd, or Clinton....
NONE of them had time to get back for the vote after it was pushed by Reid.
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