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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:25 PM
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Why do the Senators keep bringing up the Geneva Conventions? Didn't Bush
say we didn't have to follow the guidelines? Serious question - I swear he said we weren't obligated to adhere. I think this was when the flap came up over "rendition".

Thanks.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:29 PM
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1. Don't care what he said.......
The Geneva conventions are part of US law, according to the constitution. The fact that the US has been ignoring them practically since the ink was dry just means that the law has some catching up to do.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:31 PM
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2. What Bush says and what the law says are rapidly becoming
distinct to even the diehards. The point needs to be hammered, and hammered again.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 11:00 PM
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3. Bush said the terrorists are not soldiers therefore they do not have
the protection of the Geneva Convention.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 11:47 PM
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4. If they're not soldiers,
Then they are civilians, and civilians have the protection of the Geneva conventions.

There is nothing in law that says that the president can arbitrarily make a separate category of persons. It didn't work with the Germans, and it will not work in an international court now.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 10:39 AM
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6. Believe me - I am NOT agreeing with Bush
and I agree with you 100% that he is not only wrong, but monstrously immorally wrong. But, that is the reason the Bush administration has used.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 11:48 PM
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5. The Senate has a "quaint" affection for treaties (Because the Senate ratifies treaties)
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