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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 01:43 AM
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God Damned Rat Bastards....
Holy shit... Am I living in Nazi Germany where everyone is afraid to tell das fuhrer to go fuck himself?

Tonight I witnessed my party give the thumbs up to a man who okays TORTURE.

Someone tell me that if I register as an Independent I am making a big mistake.
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 01:46 AM
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1. In Ohio you wouldn't be allowed to vote for candidates in the primary elections.
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PsychobluesIsNo1 Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 01:47 AM
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2. What are your chances of success?
Edited on Fri Nov-09-07 01:50 AM by PsychobluesIsNo1
Nill to none? I respect your vote. Enjoy your immediacies. Wasn't that "rat" shit overplayed back in 2,000?
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 01:55 AM
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6. My vote was stolen
in the last 2 elections. I know it. You know it. And every rat bastard who worked with the king of the rat people know it.

I do not need my own people to vote for a mother fucker who thinks waterboarding is a sport.

I am livid!

I have been a Democrat since I started voting in '74.

I will not stand by and aid and abet a crime like the one I saw today.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 01:48 AM
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3. stay Democrat long enough to vote for Kucinich in the primaries
then switch to Independent. That's my plan.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:05 AM
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8. I am with you on this
I totally agree. I will not vote for another person who does not stand by me.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:01 AM
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19. I honestly don't see the point.
I'm sure you believe that's the right thing to do. I couldn't disagree more.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 11:48 AM
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21. I won't vote for war-mongering, torture-approving corporate tools
whose policies, proposals and voting records are in opposition to my principles.

I won't vote for a politician who is part of the problem and not part of the solution.

I won't vote for politicians who express and act out contempt for the Constitution and for the will of the people.

I won't vote for a politician who proposes to harm me and my family.

What don't you understand about that?
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 01:49 AM
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4. switch to indy
the dems need to realize they need to work for the vote.
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PsychobluesIsNo1 Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 01:53 AM
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5. So your move is abandon the Dems
and switch to indy? What an intelligent idea!!!!! Have you ever considered running for an office of your own on that platform?
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:00 AM
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7. So your idea is to
continue to support people who okay this sort of crap? To continue to bend over for the Republicans who keep fucking us in the ass?

Don't give me a ration of shit! Tell our party to step up to the plate!
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PsychobluesIsNo1 Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:13 AM
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9. Your innuendo noted, You continue on your own
My position is that the Democratic Party is not satisfactory to me. I fight and continue to support it anyway. The other choice is one that I cannot abide period and will also fight to prevent them from further unwanted interference in my life. Have you forgotten that the "small government" republicans died with Hoover? Check your history books and maybe you'll get an inkling of an understanding about this process.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:24 AM
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10. Keep on Keepin' On.
Holy shit...

I do believe you are the expression of insanity.

Fuck you and your ridiculous insinuation that I do not understand history.

I know all too well what happens when simplistic boars decide to accept the status quo.

If I am to accept torture as a first course... Then what is next?
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:34 AM
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11. Only 6 members of your party
It was 40 versus 6 defectors/traitors/shitheads.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:56 AM
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12. plus the non-voters
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 03:12 AM
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13. Who were against him but
They should have showed up to vote NO even if it wouldn't change the outcome.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 03:13 AM
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14. We need every
Edited on Fri Nov-09-07 03:13 AM by Gilligan
single member of our party to vote against torure. Not 80% but 100%

Why do I need to spell it out?
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 03:18 AM
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16. Because we don't have enough of a majority
To make up for a handful of consistent assholes. That is just the way it is. This party almost never is 100% behind anything, unlike the republicans.

Normally, I don't have to worry about Schumer voting with repukes but this time he really, really made me sick.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 03:16 AM
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15. Please
would you state this a little better than what you did?????

It needs to be said in an intelligent way.

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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 03:20 AM
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17. ?
Not sure what you mean but see my post above.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 06:57 AM
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18. It's too bad you can't get elected to anything. You'd really show 'em, huh?
Edited on Fri Nov-09-07 06:57 AM by Perry Logan
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 04:48 PM
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22. wow?
I am so... uh... ready to pout after that.

You can keep supporting a party who believes that waterboarding is a sport... okay?

I don't think I can.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:10 AM
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20. I'm mulling the Independent thing, too.
At the moment, I think the only thing keeping me from it is the knowledge I'd have Ghouliani's people calling me on the phone before the NH primary. I'm really pissed at the Dems over the AG vote and the trade bill and the burying of Kucinich's impeachment motion. You work, work, work to get these people elected then they give you the shaft.
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yojon Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 04:54 PM
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23. Dem leadership is making the same mistake they made in 2004
when during the convention they made a point of being polite and not dissing Bush or the repugs. They were very very nice and they lost.

Now Pelosi does not want to stir the shit. By mousing around, she will preserve the rage so that people will continue to be furious in 2008 and give the dems glorious victory.

Problem is that Dems are doing nothing to distinguish themselves from repugs. Unless they show some spine now, why bother to come out in November to vote for them. I'll just stay in bed and rub my belly.
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