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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 12:42 AM
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Iowa Jefferson Jackson Liveblog
Edited on Sun Nov-11-07 12:43 AM by pstans
The big news in Iowa this weekend is the Iowa Democratic Party's Jefferson Jackson Dinner held in Des Moines tonight. I attended the event and here are some notes I jotted down throughout the speeches.

John Edwards is up and gives a great speech that gave the Democratic base a lot to cheer for. Edwards begins by saying that Democrats need to stand strong and have a backbone and then goes through things Democrats need to stand up for.

We do not believe in allowing lobbyists to write the laws of the United States of America, and we do not believe that we are above the law. What we believe is we believe in the promise of America for every American.


The body of Edwards speech focused on health care. He garnered huge applause when he said that if Congress doesn't pass universal health care by July 2009 then he will use his power as President and take health care coverage away from the Congress, Cabinet members, and members of his administration. Edwards gave a great speech and was getting applause from all over the auditorium. He will be tough to follow.

Bill Richardson thanks the Democratic activists and caucus goers for showing how a strong democracy works. Richardson says Iraq is the number one issue and he is the only candidate here that says all the troops will be out in one year. He thanks Iowans for being so welcoming and for cheering on the underdog. He says it is important that Democrats don't tear each other down and keep a positive campaign, which draws applause from the crowd.

Joe Biden is up next and begins by saying he owes Rudy Giuliani an apology. He said in the last debate that the only things Rudy says in a sentence is a noun, a verb, and 9/11. However, after Pat Robertson endorsed Rudy, he now adds an amen in there. Biden theme is that we need to level with the American people. To accomplish anything we need more than a 51% majority, we need to establish a consensus to solve education, health care, and global warming. Says in the last debate everyone talked about Iran, but he talked about Pakistan. These problems all relate to one another and as long as we are in Iraq, no other country will follow our leadership in other hotspots in the world. Biden says he can't wait to debate Republicans on values. Asks what is a more important value, insuring every child in America or giving more tax cuts to the wealthy. Says the Democratic Party will be judged harshly if they are unable to bring the nation together and the world together. Has a great line, "don't tell them what they want to hear, tell them what they need to know."

Taking an intermission from the Presidential candidates by letting Iowa's delegation in the House speak. Boswell then shows off some mad auctioneering skills as they auction off a signed donkey and Nancy Pelosi's scarf, which goes for $6,000.

Some of the supporters from the first 3 candidates have left. The Richardson section is nearly empty.

Back to the Presidential Candidates. Chris Dodd's turn. Dodd leads off with some jokes that seem to fall flat. Says the first thing he will do is protect the constitution. On the very first hour on the very first day as President, he will restore the constitution. Adds in there something about retroactive immunity to telecom companies. Says he will have all of our troops out of Iraq by 2013 and that he saw the banners up in the balcony. Says there shouldn't any candidate up here tonight who doesn't get our troops out of Iraq by 2013. He discusses electability, which draws some cheers and boos among the crowd. He says to solve our problems we need a candidate that can work together with Republicans. Finishes with the theme that Chris Dodd will get the job done on universal health care, education, and winning the White House.

Before the main attractions of Hillary and Barack, Sen. Tom Harkin's will be speaking. Harkin focuses on stem cell research and the Farm Bill. Says he is happy to be a Progressive voice for Iowa and lead Iowa on a Progressive agenda. Harkin clearly has plenty of fire left in him and is on his way to be re-elected to his 5th term.

Clinton's up now. Looking at all the signs her supporters are holding up, her theme for the night is 'turn up the heat." Clinton is hitting on the experience theme by saying change is just a word if you don't have the strength and experience to make it happen.

We must nominate a nominee who has been tested and elect a president who is ready to lead on day one.


She is discussing her background and says she is glad to have fought for healthcare and this time around she will finally get health care for every American. Says there are some who say they are unsure where she stands. She stands in the same place she has stood for 35 years where she has fought for children. Clinton says we need to attack the problems we face and we need to turn up the heat on the Republicans.

Clinton's speech is very good and sounded very much like a general election speech that brings people together. She discusses her support from elected leaders in red states and includes possible VP candidate Sen. Evan Bayh of Indiana and Gov. Ted Strickland of Ohio, who is in the audience. I wonder what Tom Vilsack thinks about that.

Obama is the final speaker of the night. When his name is mentioned, the crowd goes wild. Obama probably has the most supporters in the crowd. Obama strays away from the traditional intro music and instead plays the Chicago Bulls intro music. Obama begins by going through some of the Republican failures and says come election day we need ask what's next. Says we can't be the party of triangulation and comes out with this great quote...

This party of Jefferson, Jackson, Roosevelt, and Kennedy has made the biggest difference when we lead not by polls, but by principle.


Obama is running to offer change American can believe in. Says he has done more than any candidate to take on lobbyists. Says lobbyists won't drown out the voice of average Americans. He is tired of Democrats thinking the only way to look tough on national security is to talk and vote like George Bush Republicans. Says as President he will have our troops home in 16 months. America, our moment is now.

I don't want to spend the next 3 or 4 years refighting the fights of the 1990's. I don't want to pit Red state vs Blue State, I want to be President of the United States of America.


Obama says we can make this election about the future and not about fear and not only will that be a Democratic victory, but an American victory.

This is the 5th time I have seen Obama speak and this is the most fired up, strong, and most passionate speech he has given.

Originally posted at Century of the Common Iowan.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 12:46 AM
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1. Nice commentary
not objective commentary, but nice.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 12:47 AM
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2. obama's speech was not inspiring to me -Edwards was
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 12:53 AM
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7. Obama's speech was awesome.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 12:50 AM
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3. That "refighting the fights of the 1990s" thingie ...
I don't even know what that means. I was paying attention in the 90s - it was no different than any other decade. What the hell is he trying to say here.

We have been basically fighting the same fight for 200 years in this country. There are those on the wrong side of democratic issues and those on the right side. Those on the right side of issues will always fight - thank god.
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 12:51 AM
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4. The fights of the 90's were the fights against the Clinton's
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 12:56 AM
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9. Actually, against the American people, but if your version offers comfort, so be it.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 01:00 AM
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10. I guess the poster wasn't born until the latter part of the decade
:wtf:
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 12:52 AM
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5. Didn't he say he didn't want to refight the 60's too. Not in this speech,
but before.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 12:55 AM
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8. Means that he conflicts of the 1990s were all our fault
The Republicans keep trying to reach out to us, but we horrible Democrats rebuff them.

Gobama!
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 01:01 AM
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12. I have come to the conclusion that Obama
is unfit to be the President of the U.S. He doesn't know anything about this country - its history - its personality - our feelings.

When African Americans said he wasn't "black" I didn't fully understand. Now I do - he isn't "American" enough. He is not made from the same clay. He is a poser.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 01:09 AM
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15. More proof it was a great night for Obama
The criticisms are hitting a whole new level of lameitude.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 01:17 AM
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19. That's for sure
Suddenly the vitriol of the 90's was just politics as normal. After years of griping about the vast right wing conspiracy against the Clintons, now it was politics as usual. Makes no sense whatsoever.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 01:17 AM
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20. Keep whistlin' - Obama is dead in the water. n/t
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 01:05 AM
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14. That was clearly an attack on Sen. Clinton. Basically, without really saying it outright, he was
Advancing the notion that she is too polarizing. I've heard him talk about the re-fighting the battles of the 90's before, and it's an uffair attack on Sen. Clinton.

He means that if Sen. Clinton is the nominee, the right-wing will dredge up Whitewater, Vince Foster, etc.

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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 01:15 AM
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18. I know he hates the early boomers and
he is using it as strategy to get the youth vote but this 90s thing just does not carry any real message. After the past seven years of true democracy destruction you would think he focus on that. He is totally lame.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 01:18 AM
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21. He focused on Bush and Cheney right out of the gate
Did you miss that? Too bad for you. It was great.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 01:31 AM
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24. Exactly right. I'll even take it a step further. Obama seems to enjoy blaming the victim, in a
sense......Blaming Hillary Clinton for the right-wing's hatred of her is absurd, but that's what he is doing.

I wonder does he also blame victims of crimes for their situations?
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 01:42 AM
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25. Surely not but who knows.
Oddly, I think Obama's driving personality trait is that he wants to be "liked" by everyone - including, and particularly, those he should not like. In trying to make nice with the enemy he pisses off what should be his natural supporters. I think this is a serious character flaw and not one I want to see in any Democratic presidential contender.
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 11:19 AM
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26. Hates the boomers?
His point was that his generation has a different perspective on things because we haven't live through Vietnam.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 01:15 AM
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17. Oh bull, it was awful
I am sick of that crap too and the only way to have a chance to move past it is to not elect Hillary Clinton. If she goes in the WH, it is guaranteed we'll have 8 more years of that shit.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 12:52 AM
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6. Obama talks like the American people still do not
know what the hell went on during the 90's. He fails to understand the American people thought the 90's were damn good. He fails to understand the American people saw in Bill Clinton an American President that really gave a damn about them. Plus, they understand all this republican crap was nothing more then a witch hunt.

"I don't want to spend the next 3 or 4 years refighting the fights of the 1990's" Bill Clinton left office with anywhere from a 68 to 72% approval rating. Hell Obama is the only person bringing up the chit from the 90's most all other Americans have moved forward and now see Clinton in a new light and give him at least 60% approval ratings now.

Obama if you wanna fight the fights that Clinton did as presdient you Obama name the time and the place and I will be there to discuss with you anything you wish about the era of peace and prosperity and that my brother were the 1990's.....

Ben David
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 01:00 AM
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11. Politics became so polarizing with the Clinton's
and NAFTA was passed and Wal Mart become the giant they are today with the help of the Clinton's.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 01:03 AM
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13. Oh for god's sake. Read a book. n/t
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 01:10 AM
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16. Really... Clinton was a centrist, yet there were "Impeach Clinton" bumper-stickers out before
inauguration day.

The fucking nazis could not tolerate even a southern centrist DLC president for one day. That is what was polarizing. The fact that the modern republican party base is a bunch of high-strung fascists and racists and woman-haters.

Bill Clinton was, on his merits, perhaps the least polarizing politician I have ever seen. Yet they shut down the government, impeached him, and said he was to the left of Chairman Mao.

Obama is beyond naive.
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 01:19 AM
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22. This isn't about if it was Clinton's fault
it is about they shut down the government, impeached him, and said he was to the left of Chairman Mao. Those thing happened. If Hillary is elected, they will surely happen again (and that isn't Hillary's fault at all). We can't accomplish the goals that we must accomplish in that environment.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 01:20 AM
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23. He's saying we can have a fresh start
With someone who wasn't involved in any of that, so when the Republicans start it up again, it will be obvious what they're up to. We get a real progressive without the baggage. What's not to support.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 11:25 AM
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27. Good work!
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 11:42 AM
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28. Hi bud, wish we would have ran into each other!
:hi:

Did run into Cornfield and josh_edwards07 was there too.

Good write up, my brain is fried and I can't even recall half of what was said last night!
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