Obama on Meet the Press--fact check

http://facts.hillaryhub.com/archive/?id=4143

Obama criticized Hillary's vote for Kyl-Lieberman because—he argued—the resolution said that force structures in Iraq would have an impact on Iranian influence:

"The primary difference between myself and Senator Clinton is that she believes our force structure inside Iraq should in part depend on how we can prevent Iran from having influence inside of Iraq."

Actually, Obama said the exact same thing just last year...

--snip--

on Social Security: Obama's position in May

"Everything should be on the table. I think we should approach it the same way Tip O'Neill and Ronald Reagan did back in 1983. They came together. I don't want to lay out my preferences beforehand, but what I know is that Social Security is solvable. It is not as difficult a problem as we're going to have with Medicaid and Medicare."


--snip---

:sarcasm:

LOL I can see it now, Obama after having served in the White House for 8 years and establishing one of the best record on LGBT issues will still be hounded by some regarding McClurkin.

This internets jihad against Obama is absurd.

When was BHO a professor? He was a university lecturer.....so is Donald Trump...for crissake.

and learn the facts. Think outside of what you are being told by the Clinton Campaign when it comes to any of the other candidates.

I'm telling you, I'm beginning to think that there is no difference between those who claim to be democratic supporters and those who claim to be republican supporters...or should I say, Hillary Clinton supporters and republicans in general.

in an area of law makes you a professor. While not tenured at the school, you are considered a professor by the staff and students.

Semantics.

And he IS writing a resume...I'm quite sure his campaign is smart enough to not refer to him as a "former professor"

like that?

BHO was NOT a professor. You are free to decide the value of the experience as first lady. But she was first lady.

Main Entry: pro·fes·sor
Pronunciation: \prə-ˈfe-sər\
Function: noun
Date: 14th century
1: one that professes, avows, or declares
2 a: a faculty member of the highest academic rank at an institution of higher education b: a teacher at a university, college, or sometimes secondary school c: one that teaches or professes special knowledge of an art, sport, or occupation requiring skill

Main Entry: 2lecture
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): lec·tured; lec·tur·ing \ˈlek-chə-riŋ, ˈlek-shriŋ\
Date: circa 1590
intransitive verb
: to deliver a lecture or a course of lectures
transitive verb
1 : to deliver a lecture to
2 : to reprove formally
— lec·tur·er \-chər-ər, -shrər\ noun

number of real Professors that would take offense. Obama himself has never made that claim, has he???I don't think so. I hope not.

"I was a constitutional law professor, which means unlike the current president I actually respect the Constitution," Obama told an audience at a campaign fundraiser. "I believe in an attorney general who is actually the people's lawyer, not the president's lawyer."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&type=politics

. . .got busted on this, wouldn't Obama. Afterall POTUS is a lot more important than head coach of Notre Dame, right? Maybe its not the controversy you want it to be.

says he was a Professor. I doubt if there is one. They are not that stupid.

Obama again prevails.
Thanks for playing, drive through.

Uninformed....?????That would be you, kitty

He was introduced last night by Nancy Pelosi as such. You can keeping saying otherwise a la Goebbels hoping it will stick, but the truth is out there and will prevail.

Your obsession with trying to hamstring Obama is duly noted.

Gobama.

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On edit: Thanks for the edit; your spelling was hurting my eyes, which is rather surprising because we discussed the proper use of ACCEPT not a half-hour ago, which pretty much explains your resistance to facts.

Prove me wrong.

Barack Obama taught Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago Law School for about 11 years (1993-2004)

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/253391,CST-NWS-prof12.stng

Students cannot "anoint" him Professorship.
Why on earth do you want to run with this? Counterproductive to your candidate.

Thank you for elaborating on the absurdity of your own opinion on this.

Senior Lecturer in Law is Obama's best attribution.

http://www.law.uchicago.edu/faculty/obama/cv.html

Perhaps there is confusion with Senator Biden who is listed as an adjunct Professor in his Curriculum Vitae. Although, Biden's credentials cannot be confused with a Senior Lecturer. Perhaps, rather than having Nancy Pelosi unintentionally perpetuating a misnomer. It would behoove the Obama Campaign, to correct the erroneous attribution of Law Professor with a correction to 'Senior Lecturer in Law' as a first step in demonstrating Obama's authentic 'transparency' beginning with himself.

Obama is regularly refered to as BO on this board, first time I saw the BHO, we all know why you pulled that card. . .so go ahead play it!

:cry: :cry:

. . .promoted his middle name, the right wingers do and we know they don't do it to pay tribute to his heritage they (and I assumed you as well) do it to negatively reinforce the assumption that he is really Muslim. Your motivation is obvious.

:cry: :nopity:

. . .rhetoric. You know what your motivation was and you know. Thanks for exposing yourself.

(Old slang for "body odor")

I tend to type Obama because it is short, but if I used "BHO" it would be precisely to avoid the RW game

LOL. . .

Personally, I would like nothing more, then to have this primary close.I still hope President Gore will step in and run for re-election. so please do not pretend that it is my intent to "marginalize" any Democratic candidate. See The yellow dog? Been yellow for 50+ years.

Him saying that doesn't make it so. Thanks for digging that up. New fodder.

. . .has anyone ever seen the "Playa Haters Ball" on the Chappelle show? To quote that skit. Hate! Hate! Hate!

Compare that to the fabulous economy during Clinton administration 1992-2000.
Obama is a nice guy, but would any thinking person would want to hand him the
controls over the world's biggest and most complex economy? Way too green for me
there.

But I do like his stand on attacking Pakistan's Waziristan province to capture
or kill Osama even if Pakistan disagrees. He is the only one of the candidates
who had the balls to state the obvious. And I also like his statement the other
day that Edwards is a phony. My respect for Obama is growing but not enough to
switch from Hillary.

That's better.

primary vetting is still important and McClurkin is still an issue although it's obviously not a problem for you. That's ok, we all judge these candidates by our own standards.

. . .I will never defend the McClurkin decision but the hypocrisy issue considering Clinton's association with homophobes is very interesting.

but I don't think this thread needs to turn into another flame war. I'll agree to disagree.

. . .don't tell me why I'm wrong? LOL Talk about drive by posting.

because 1. Obama solicited McClurkin for his gospel tour, 2. He ignored the request of the GBLT community to toss him off the tour and 3. McClurkin was not only part of his tour, he MC'd it and was given the stage to speak.

Clinton didn't solicit endorsements from any bigots that I'm aware of, and she didn't allow one to headline, MC or speak his hateful ignorance at one of her tours.

. . .amendment? Tell me how that is different. She selected them to be the face of her campaign in SC, she had to know how they voted. Why is that different?

other than Gravel and Kucinich? Do I think it's hateful, yes, but they're equally wrong on this issue. Obama is singularly wrong in allowing the inclusion of McClurkin despite the pleas of the gay community.

. . .while the Democratic candidates are currently opposed to gay marriage most do not support anti-gay marriage amendments like Hillary's SC chairs did.

I believe that Obama has done that on numerous occasions.

. . .Hillary would be afraid to challenge the Black church, Barack is not. There is the Hillary double standard and many on DU are very comfortable with that.

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He knew the controversy was heating up, he knew very well what McClurkin stood for, and yet he wasn't present to condemn this bigotry at the time it was being spewed.

After the scandalous bigoted Donnie McClurkin Gospel Tour.

Obama's Curriculum Vitae says he argued in Appeals Court. This article was all I could find on the subject.

Obama's View of the Constitution Hinted in Article

By GARY SHAPIRO

Staff Reporter of the Sun

March 26, 2007

"Is Barack Obama a space cadet? The man who would become senator of Illinois and a top Democratic presidential contender was credited for editorial or research assistance in a page-one footnote of what may be the zaniest-titled article ever published by the Harvard Law Review: "The Curvature of Constitutional Space: What Lawyers Can Learn From Modern Physics," authored by noted legal scholar Laurence Tribe."

http://www.nysun.com/article/51131?page_no=1

After reading the above article to conclusion. It was obvious to me where Obama got his "bend the arc" contrivance as a pick up line for his latest video ad. Laurence Tribe used this theory to base his new interpretation of how the Law should/could be viewed. If you can imagine the homogenization of the "Law" and Physics based on Einsteinian's universe, objects affect and curve space. For Mr. Tribe, the social and legal worlds cannot be separated. Law is not just a backdrop but a part of the action. If you care to believe his debatable assertion. Legal Scholars happily do not concur with Mr. Tribe.

If a 'thank you' in a footnote encompasses all of Obama's experience arguing in the Appeals Court.

Why am I not surprised? The more you know about Obama, the more you learn his definition of 'transparency' seems ubiquitously opaque.

is why we are in the quagmire on all fronts that we are in today.

Get all the facts. Obama has done alot for glbt causes. Trying to bring all sides together, even though you disagree vehemently, is the mark of a good leader and is how you go about bringing a change of hearts and minds.

religious zealots, bigots, and homophobes must be made welcome in our "big tent":rofl: :banghead: :puke:

:rofl:

Your post doesn't make a lot of sense. If you're going to say Obama said "the exact same thing" you should at least include his quote.

But, of course it does make sense, as he has been inconsistent in his statements--i would argue changing his postions more like Edwards while complaining that Clinton is doing that exact thing.

I am guessing everything on hillaryhub is open to reprint... kind of like press releases. They want their info disseminated

Sen. Obama criticized Hillary's vote for Kyl-Lieberman because—he argued—the resolution said that force structures in Iraq would have an impact on Iranian influence:

The primary difference between myself and Senator Clinton is that she believes our force structure inside Iraq should in part depend on how we can prevent Iran from having influence inside of Iraq.
Actually, Sen. Obama said the exact same thing just last year:

A reduced but active presence will also send a clear message to hostile countries like Iran and Syria that we intend to remain a key player in this region
…Make no mistake, if the Iranians and Syrians think they can use Iraq as another Afghanistan or a staging area from which to attack Israel or other countries, they are badly mistaken. It is in our national interest to prevent this from happening.
Social Security
Sen. Obama claimed that Hillary said that all we need to do to solve the long term challenges in social security is return to fiscal responsibility:

So on social security for example, she has maintained, it appears, that if we just get our fiscal house in order that we can solve the problem of Social Security.
Actually, Hillary said that returning to fiscal responsibility is the first step. Then she would appoint a bi-partisan commission to address Social Security's long term challenges that would consider a variety of options:

"But I am strongly advocating a bipartisan process, similar to what we had in '83, and when that gets set up, as I hope it will be when I'm president, then I'm going to see what the bipartisan members are going to come up with."

This was an approach that, until very recently, Sen. Obama endorsed. Here's Sen. Obama in May:

Everything should be on the table. I think we should approach it the same way Tip O'Neill and Ronald Reagan did back in 1983. They came together. I don't want to lay out my preferences beforehand, but what I know is that Social Security is solvable. It is not as difficult a problem as we're going to have with Medicaid and Medicare.

11/11/2007 11:36:20 AM #

isn't that a little, oh, I dunno, hypcritical?