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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 05:31 PM
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Newest NH poll: Hillary 35%, Obama 21%, Edwards 15%; Stick a fork in Fred (he's in 6th place in NH)
From the Boston Globe:

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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 05:34 PM
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1. Ron Paul beats Huckabee in NH. That's interesting. Thompson
might as well hang it up--he's toast. Mittens is a runaway freight train in NH. I wish Hillary weren't still so far out ahead.
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Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 05:45 PM
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5. If Obama stays within 15% of Hillary, and IF he wins Iowa, he might then beat her in NH, too.
I'd say the same for Edwards. If Edwards wins Iowa by more than a couple of percentage points, and Hillary comes in second. It's over for Obama.

If Hillary wins Iowa by more that a couple of percentage points, we may as well polish her crown because it's over.
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chaumont58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 06:06 PM
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7. When Ifs and Buts are candy and nuts, we'll all have a merry Christmas
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Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 06:30 PM
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9. "Ifs" are all we have for the next two months.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 06:46 PM
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12. Mittens has a summer mansion in NH - plus he was gov. of MA
Naturally they'll go for him up there.
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 08:22 PM
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16. Willard HAS TO WIN NH because of his geographical advantage. I'm hearing that Paul is ON FIRE in NH,
and that McCain has a decent amount of lingering support but much of his '00 support drifted to Thompson and is now leaving Thompson for Paul. I don't see Giuliani coming in higher than 3rd in NH and I can see him doing as poorly as 5th if everything breaks against him.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 04:27 PM
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32. Is his name really Willard?
Gag, that reminds me of rats. :puke:
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 04:30 PM
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33. It is his real name, and that's probably why he doesn't use it.
Creates a great image in the mind, eh?
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 06:58 PM
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14. One of the best things for "our guy" would be for Mittens to build an insurmountable lead in NH.
The huge question is, given their open primary system, which ballot "independents" will select on election day. If the Repug race is settled, and McLame is finis, Obama might be the most appealing alternative. If McLame doesn't finish in the top three in Iowa, he'll be done anyway.

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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 05:37 PM
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2. Thank you for posting. nm
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 05:40 PM
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3. I think that fork feels MIGHTY GOOD to Fred. His drunken shar-pei heart isn't in it.
His wife might be a little pissed, but maybe even she's getting tired of having to keep Juggles and Bouncy under wraps.

What I find telling is that Romney has been spending a fucking FORTUNE on "Pleasantville" type ads, and he's coming in second in 'leadership' and THIRD on dealing with 'terrah?' And he isn't even regarded as the most likely to defeat a Democrat!!!

:rofl:

This is terribly funny, because, as Mike Barnicle AND many others have noted, Mitt Romney basically LIVED in NH while he was governor of MA. You'd think they'd be nicer to a 'native son' of sorts!!!! He spent more time at that obscenely ostentatious lake house than he did in that crampy Belmont mansion. Most telling of all--he's only got Rudy by four lousy points. New Hampshire thinks a guy who wears stockings, high heels, wigs and makeup--a LOT--is only four points shy of their favorite.

Gotta love this GOP field. They really do suck!
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 12:46 PM
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25. Oh my god, "drunken shar-pei heart"
best Fred Thomson description ever.LOL
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 03:44 PM
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31. That's the first thing I thought of when I saw him. I remember him fatter,
and he's got all that floppy, wrinkled skin around his smaller head, with his droopy jowls and eyes.

He goes a bit overboard on the ole "man tan" too.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 05:44 PM
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4. What I find very interesting
is how the polls shifts dramatically for the GOp while is fairly consistent for Dems. The GOP voters are
going to vote for someone they fell has less chance to win in November? Why? Because they hate Guiliani? Other shifts indicate they are completely at see because of their own gullibility or desperation, believing myths about each candidate as sold to them by the media and the talking points without anything coming together. That also indicates they will come together when they are told to, the core of them, because, yes, they are that dumb.

The Dems seem to be locked in some popularity contest haze where there is no difference on the issues or electability than on the preference. This seems also blatantly unreal and conversely united comnpared to the GOP. Obviously, smelling old time victory we want to be united around an old time name. The media also might be making that possible at this stage.

Interesting poll.
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luckyleftyme2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 06:01 PM
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6. PAT ROBINSON ENDORSES GIULIANI

THAT WAS THE BEST BONE THE DEMOCRATS GOT SO FAR FROM THE RIGHT;SORT OF SHOWS YOU THEY AREN'T SO SAINTLY MORE LIKE GREEDY FOR POWER!
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 06:15 PM
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8. Which candidate has best chance to defeat the Republican nominee:
Edited on Sun Nov-11-07 06:17 PM by MethuenProgressive
Which candidate has best chance to defeat the Republican nominee?
Clinton 53%, Obama 17%, Edwards 10% Richardson 3%.

Edwards has 15% percent support, but only 10% think he can win.
33% of his New Hampshire supporters think someone else has a better chance of winning than he does.

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Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 06:33 PM
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10. That's what happens when people vote on principle. Go figure ...
The 10% will be a majority after Iowa (or it will dwindle to 0%). We'll see.
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NewHampster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 06:45 PM
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11. Direct link for those wanting the source
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 06:49 PM
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13. 72% of Democrats STILL DECIDING or LEANING. Wide open. nt
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 07:15 PM
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15. Agreed!
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 11:04 PM
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17. Interesting that Iraq is the #1 issue for Republicans, not Democrats
Also significant - Obama beats Hillary & Edwards - which can be easily explained by the fact that 44% Democrats consider that the initial position on Iraq is very important.
I was also stunned that a staggering 22% of Democrats want us to "stay as long as it needs"
Also, I think when interpreting all these numbers, we need to remember the fact that, nationwide, only 25% nowadays admit to being republicans...
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 01:03 AM
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20. Health care is the top Dem issue because republicans already HAVE health care
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 11:24 PM
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18. I'm surprised at a lot of these poll results
Illegal immigration is most important to only 14% of Republicans in NH? Wow!! Yet a relatively similar percentage of Dems and Repubs consider it 'very' important. I'm also shocked that 4X as many Repubs call for using diplomacy vs. military force with Iran. That's great news, people!
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 12:59 AM
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19. Probably because
New Hampshire's illegal immigrant is a well-liked gardener named Paco. He never uses the leaf-blower before 10:00am.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 09:27 AM
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21. Who's trustworthy? Obama 26%, Edwards 19%, Hillary 19%; does that mean 16% of Hillary NH supporters
find her less trustworthy than another candidate or am I reading that wrong?
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 10:35 AM
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22. I read it that way, too.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 11:57 AM
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23. Does it also mean that 50% of Edwards supporters think another candidate is a better leader?
:shrug:
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 12:52 PM
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26. No. A "stronger" leader isn't necessarily a "better" leader (at least that what Genghis Khan says)
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 01:08 PM
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27. So not being viewed as either a strong leader or experienced vs others means nothing?
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 01:12 PM
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28. Bush has 7 years experience, and he's got higher "strong leader" numbers than any of our candidates
You tell me how much having the most "experience" means (and if you think it means so much, please send Dodd a few bucks because he's got lots of great experience and could use a little support).
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 01:19 PM
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29. Where was Bush asked about on this poll?
:shrug:

We're talking perceptions and who is perceived as what. In this poll's case Hillary is seen as the strongest leader and most experienced amongst the Democrats while she is seen as the being the 2nd most honest tied with Edwards.

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hadrons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 12:22 PM
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24. You can find someone more honest, but don't feel they're up to the job or agree with them
doesn't mean anything
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 06:17 PM
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35. Hillary & Edwards are consedered based on their initial position towards war
(which according to another question, matters to 44% of democrats)
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 02:54 PM
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30. Thompson is the Bob Dole of 2007
It would actually be great if he wins the GOP nom - viagra GOP nominee #2!
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 04:32 PM
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34. Except Dole had more charisma. Fred is soooooo deadpan.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 07:23 PM
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36. Thompson is the John Connally of the 2008 race
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 07:28 PM
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37. Very interesting party comparisons!
Thanks for posting! :thumbsup:
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