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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 10:12 PM
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Russert tries to sneak and mislead with Obama interview on Meet The Press
I thought Barack Obama did well on the Meet The Press interview (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032608/), but as usual, Russert tried to fire away a number of quotes lumped together to try to slip up Obama on the war. And as I saw at the time and as Media Matters does the analysis, Russert cherry-picked and edited the full quote of Obama's to try to stick it to him. It didn't work.

Russert misleadingly cropped Obama comment to claim he wasn't "firmly wedded against the war"

Summary: Interviewing Barack Obama on Meet the Press, Tim Russert read a quote he attributed to Obama to suggest that he has "not been a leader against the war": "In July of 2004, Barack Obama: 'I'm not privy to Senate intelligence reports. ... What would I have done? I don't know,' in terms of how you would have voted on the war."

Russert did not quote the very next sentence of Obama's statement, which was, "What I know is that from my vantage point the case was not made" for authorizing the war.

http://www.mediamatters.org/items/200711110004?f=h_latest


The New York Times original article:
In a recent interview, he declined to criticize Senators Kerry and Edwards for voting to authorize the war, although he said he would not have done the same based on the information he had at the time.

''But, I'm not privy to Senate intelligence reports,'' Mr. Obama said. ''What would I have done? I don't know. What I know is that from my vantage point the case was not made.''

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9407E2DF153DF935A15754C0A9629C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=2


As should be no surprise to anyone paying attention, Bill Clinton had tried to lie about Obama's possible support of the Iraq War Resolution recently. I personally put both Russert and Bill Clinton in the same level of trustworthy behavior ...which isn't much.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/03/19/clinton-obama-war-feud-spills-into-forum/


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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 10:20 PM
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1. You nailed the gist of this issue, sir.
Well done! :thumbsup:
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 10:23 PM
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2. It's so unfair and just WRONG to present partial statements of a candidate
that don't accurately portray what was said.

Unfortunately, that's what we pick up and run with. "Well Obama said he didn't know how he'd vote for the war."

We're fortunate we have resources to root out the entire story. But those of us who don't or can't are being deceived.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 10:24 PM
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3. Russert does this to all the candidates. He is a tough interview.
Obama did really well.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 07:16 PM
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16. That's more than tough, it's dishonest. nt
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 10:25 PM
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4. Russert does what he does best.
:puke:
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 10:50 PM
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5. Why does O lie about his desire to be President. Last night
in his speech he said that running for president was not a long-held ambition....uh huh Well I can cite several newspaper interviews with Obama's teachers who said he wrote that he wanted to be president.

Now you cannot have someone trying to be holier then thou speaking on one side of his mouth and on the other side speaking lies. That will not fly....I'm sorry but when you act as though you can walk on water you better be in water only a 1/2 inch deep.

Ben David
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ripple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 12:35 AM
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12. Please cite the newspapers you mention n/t
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ginchinchili Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 11:00 PM
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6. I don't see the problem.
Russert was simply pointing out that Obama can't really say what he would have done and he was using Sen. Obama's own words to establish this point. Obama said that he wasn't privy to the intelligence data that the Senate received and so he really can't say for sure what he would have done. I appreciate that honesty in Obama, and I don't say that lightly. The honesty builds my trust better than his attempt to position himself as being against the invasion when most federal legislators, at the very least, allowed it to happen. But Russert was pulling out the facts, which is his job. Obama isn't in a strong position to criticize those who voted for giving Bush the authority to invade Iraq when a.)it's easy for him to say because he had nothing on the line, i.e., no political pressure, and b.)by his own words he admits that he isn't sure how he would have voted. It should be kept in mind that at the time, this being only a short time after 9/11, Republicans, including Bush, were publicly accusing Democrats of being unAmerican and unpatriotic when they publically questioned Bush about the wisdom of the invasion, and it was resonating with the public! That is why I admire Obama for saying that he can't say for sure how he would have voted, but my trust in him is undermined when he conveniently suggests that he'd have voted against it. The bottom line is that he can't say for sure how he would have voted and he should stick with that. That difficult honesty is admirable.

Perhaps Obama's greatest strength is his integrity, something that American's are longing for in their leaders. It only hurts that perception when he repositions the facts in an advantageous way that gives him credit that hasn't been earned. He did the same thing with the Kyl/Lieberman bill. He doesn't bother to show up to vote on it, Hillary does, Hillary votes in favor of it, and then Obama criticizes her for it. As far as I'm concerned, when Obama failed to show up for the vote he lost his right to criticize anyone on their vote.

Obama has a well-earned reputation for his integrity. It behooves him to resist the political temptations that risks doing harm to that reputation.
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 11:02 PM
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7. So you don't like it when the media lies?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 11:59 PM
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8. Did the same crap with HRC during the debate. nt
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ginchinchili Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 12:13 AM
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10. Why define the question about giving illegal emigrants drivers licenses as "crap"?
Just because Hillary botched the answer doesn't mean you should criticize Russert for asking the question. It was a legitimate question.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 12:25 AM
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11. I was talking about the archives question. nt
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 12:53 AM
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13. They only see it when it affects Obama
When it's Clinton, it's OK
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 12:10 AM
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9. I thought the questions were good
Edited on Mon Nov-12-07 12:12 AM by goodgd_yall
Not easy ones. And they may have been misleading ones, but if a candidate can't answer Russert's questions without appearing tripped up, then he or she will be in trouble during the GE campaigning.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 12:43 PM
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14. kick
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 07:16 PM
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15. Wow. Pretty underhanded if you ask me. nt
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 09:00 AM
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17. Media Matters explains it all.
Edited on Wed Nov-14-07 09:06 AM by AtomicKitten
thanks again for posting this
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