From someone who's not endorsing anyone: I think Kucinich has this in the bag

I recently talked to my conservative parents about the election. Both of them voted for Reagan and the Bushes. The last Democrat they voted for was JFK. In talking about the recent elections we were discussing the candidate we like the most. Myself, I'm undecided and nobody from either party really stands out to me (Not voting Republican so don't even start). Personally I'm just sitting back and watching the field play out.

My parents OTOH, were talking about Kennedy and what a breath of fresh air he was as well as Bobby Kennedy. Their opinion recently on the field of candidates was, "I can't put my finger on it but there is something about Kucinich that reminds me of JFK, Bobby Kennedy and FDR".

To them, there is something in light of the UFO comment they get from Kucinich they aren't getting from the other candidates; Sincerity. That was something FDR, JFK and Boby Kennedy had and something they feel the other candidates running in both parties don't have.

I'm getting a lot of the same feedback from many other people as well. Kucinich was the last guy I thought would have a shot for the Dem nomination based on how he polled in the 04 primaries. Looking at the way things are going now it seems to make sense. He's in the same spot Clinton and Kerry were in 92 and 04. To be in that third to fourth slot in the polls looks like a good place to be right about now.

I'm now beginning to wonder how this thing is really going to shake out. My parents don't away like this all to easily and I think this is one area where the punditocracy may have overplayed their hands.

and then turn around and vote for their antitheses

Does anything they do make sense?

I knew some people back in '68 who were gung-ho for Bobby Kennedy. But when he was bumped off, they ended up voting for George Wallace. They couldn't bring themselves to vote for Humphrey, but they couldn't vote for Nixon, either.

or have a right wing perspective aren't necasarily wholesale against leftist candidates per se.

There is an image built up in there minds of people making big promises and stabbing them in the back. So they see left wing ideals as impractical or not applicable to the real world working of government.

A lot of what is shown on the news about Kucinich has him backing up his words later on on the House floor. To them it's just re enforcement of a guy coming at you with what he means and no bullshit.

So in the race he's kinda the idealgue but someone you tack his words to his actions. A guy who will stab you from the front and not in the back.

Hillary and Obama have fallen victim to overexposure as Romney and Giulliani have. All those guys along with Ron Paul have an air of "used car salesmen" as a result.

Kennedy lied about the US being behind the soviets, and won the presidency.
opposites?
i don't think so.

It was all about the space race, and we WERE behind. And Kennedy did something about it!

Echo I was launched in 1960

Yuri Gagarin beat Alan Shepard into space by a few weeks in 1961.

We were behind the Soviets for a while in the space race.

JFK said Ike allowed a missile gap to grow between the U S and the U S S R during his presidency... This proved not be the case...However there is ample evidence that JFK believed it to be true because intelligence estimates were so flawed...

That being said, I don't think anybody would deny JFK was a centrist/internationalist on foreign policy/defense issues but to compare the man who came up with the framework for Medicare and Medicaid with the man who (Reagan) wanted to dismantle the welfare state is fucking libelous,...

Does that mean John Kennedy=Ronald Reagan...

That's seriously fucked up...

"We begin bombing the Evil Empire in 5 minutes"

as being more honest than the others. He gives straight answers to whatever questions are asked. I love what he stands for & his plans to save our country.

GO DENNIS!!

But that may not be enough to win. Look at President Carter when he lost to that lying sack of poop reagan---the U.S. doesn't care for the truth. They just want someone to look the part of "president" so they chose the actor instead of the statesman.:(

but I know he is stronger, and more likely to be a force, than the establishment wants anyone to think.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I think that would make a huge point, especially with independent and cross-over voters. Kucinich was right in 2004-- right about the war, right about the need for health care reform, right about the Patriot Act, right about the need to reform foreign policy, and right about the disastrous course that BOTH parties were embarking on. Kucinich gets it. Americans didn't listen in 2004, largely because the media intentionally marginalized DK, but now they have another chance.

by which I mean all the things that the Amerikan Corporate State can't stand to have a politician be right about.

got a completely different reaction from my (Democratic) parents. They see Dennis as no-where near the bag.

in the sky that they couldn't identify, would they EVER answer the question about 'Have you ever
seen a UFO?" with a simple 'Yes.'??!! Not in a million years. They would have said:

- My remarks were taken out of context.
- I never said that.
- I may have said that, but that was not what I meant.
- I may have meant that, but that was not what I said.
- I am being framed because I'm winning.
- I am being ridiculed because I am losing.
- I thought I was on The Daily Show and was only joking.
- I thought I was on Meet the Press and wanted to see Timmeh's eyes bulge. More.
- I thought I was on Hardball and wanted to see Tweety salivate right onto his desk.
- I thought I was on Countdown and wanted to be featured on his "Oddball" segment.

But, really - would anyone but Kucinich have answered, "Yes." ?
The more I think about this, the more impressed I get.
Seriously.

;)

:rofl:

and he has so much heart and soul.

He's also right in the mainstream with his issues and solutions.

These are what really set him apart from the rest of the candidates.

Excellent! Too bad more people will never know much about him. In the bag? We can always hope and push for it.

And then we'll all have rainbow ponies and nuzzle cute fuzzy hot-fudge kittens.

I think Ron Paul puts across this image to a lot of Republicans as a snake oil salesmen. On one hand he's outspoken on the war and on the other hand they aren't certain as what else he has in his bag.

Kucinich to them like Kennedy has an air of weirdness but different than what you got from, say, Ross Perot. It's more of a surface weirdness whereas people know what to expect from the guy and will say what is on his mind.

Much different than the atypical polished candidate that speaks in generalities and you can't tack anything in the past or present to what he's saying now. Reagan had that oddballish nature to them as well.

It's a strange phenoma but I guess taken as whole makes sense when you look at the big picture. The candidates in the Democratic field seem like the snakey Dems their grandparents warned them out. I think it's an air of falseness that's urban legend amongst candidates running slightly to the left.

In other words, "You make big promises but unlikely to keep them. I'll vote for the guy that's gonna stab me in the front."

On the news Kucinich's stories tend to back what he's saying. That goes a long way with a lot of people.

candidate speaking the TRUTH...The truth about the psycho-in-chief, The truth about Darth, The truth about Impeachment, The truth about Iraq, The Truth about Iran, The Truth about health care, The Truth about taxes, The Truth about the crimes this administration has committed and The Truth about his personal life....UFOs! I'm not so sure the media will allow Dennis to be prez though. They have chosen our candidates for us....Rudy and Hillary.:( We shall see. Dennis is the ONLY candidate who would investigate the thugs in this administration. That's why he'll never be allowed to be prez.....the media and the powers that be will make damn sure the next prez will be an insider and one who will want to "move on", want us to "stop crying in our teacups", will "bring the country together or will "unite us all."

DK wins this thing