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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 10:19 AM
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Yepsen: Obama's Superb Speech Could Catapult His Bid
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The six leading Democratic presidential candidates showed up for the Iowa Democratic Party's big Jefferson Jackson Dinner on Saturday night, and five of them gave very good speeches.

Barack Obama's was excellent. It was one of the best of his campaign.

The passion he showed should help him close the gap on Hillary Clinton by tipping some undecided caucusgoers his way.

His oratory was moving, and he successfully contrasted himself with the others — especially Clinton — without being snide or nasty about it.

That was an important thing for him to do. Historically, the Iowa party's "JJ" dinner is a landmark event in Democratic presidential caucus campaigns. All the key party activists, donors and players are present. This year, about 9,000 of them showed up.

(Most were from Iowa, though there was some grumbling that Obama packed the place with ringers from Illinois. Joe Biden even greeted them in his speech. The charge that they brought in outsiders was denied by the Obama people, who were nevertheless pleased they beat the other candidates in the noise war inside Veterans Memorial Auditorium.)

What's important isn't the hoopla. It's what the candidate does on the stage and while all did quite well, Obama was particularly impressive. Should he come from behind to win the Iowa caucuses, Saturday's dinner will be remembered as one of the turning points in his campaign here. For example:

more...

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=3853222&page=1
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 10:45 AM
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1. There was nothing superb about Obama's speech
It was a very disengenuous speech, especially with the attacks on Sen. Clinton. His line about not feeling a sense of entitlement to the Presidency, and not re-fighting the battles of the 90s.

First of all, Obama, who ever said Sen. Clinton feels a sense of entitlement to the presidency? That's certainly not something she's ever voiced. So it seems Obama was talking out of his a&s on that one. And the re-fighting the battles of the 90s's line. Sounds like you're blaming the victim. You want to blame Sen. Clinton for Ken Starr's investigations, and Newt Gingrich and Richard Melon Scaiffe's hatred of her?

Obama is proving himself to be nothing more than a partisan hack who just repeats right-wing talking points about Sen. Clinton.

Truth be told, ALL of the candidates just basically gave re-tooled versions of their stump speeches at the Iowa event the other night. None of them really said anything new.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 11:05 AM
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 11:37 AM
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9. I agree with your assessment. What is happening is that the media is selling us a lie
Edited on Mon Nov-12-07 11:38 AM by Evergreen Emerald
The media has chosen the democratic candidate and those on DU are actually still buying what the media sells.

They are denouncing Clinton continuously, and have decided to build up Obama. I am watching in amazement as progressives on DU just regurgitate the talking points they just heard on TV as if it is true.

Clinton is being Deaned.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 11:46 AM
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11. Obama will be a great president.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 11:49 AM
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12. Just making that sweeping statement does not adress the issues
Obama has been disengenuous with the people.
Obama has distorted Clinton's statements and then attempted to use those lies against her
Obama is changing his stance on the Iraq war and lying about statements he made previously
Obama is not answering questions about issues and then accusing Clinton of the same.

Obama is making mistakes that I do not want a president to make.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 11:55 AM
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13. Exactly! Have you noticed that the Obama supporters can't back up their statements with any real
facts? They just make these overly broad statements in support of their candidate, without really backing those statments up with facts.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 10:46 AM
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2. Gobama!
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 11:02 AM
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3. Take Yepsen with aHUGE grain of salt
He leans right. His columns generally praise Repugs and dismiss Dems as lightweights. With all the attention this year he has reinvented himself as a moderate. Now he gets TV time with Tweety and others as the voice of Iowa. He is no more the voice of Iowa than Jim Nussle.
Obama's speech may have been the best. I'd just be careful citing Yepsen as the source.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 11:10 AM
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5. there's a lot of that going around lately
andrew sullican is also supporting obama.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 11:36 AM
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8. Yepsen also is in the habit of building up a candidate just to tear them down
a couple of columns later (remember the articles about Obama skipping events this summer?).

:hi: hi rurallib.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 04:32 PM
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16. Hi, Debi. Thanks for helping to let fplks know about Yepsen.
Been reading him for years. Anybody who thought Brandstadt was a good governor, well....
:hi:
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 11:42 AM
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10. You know a lot of people here on DU will cite anyone, just to re-inforce their own view. Heck, some
DUers would probably cite the Devil, if it helped them reinvorce their view or score political points against another candidate (namely Clinton).
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 11:33 AM
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6. I listened to his speech...
...and I did not find it to be "superb". In my opinion it was quite run-of-the-mill actually. The parts that were trying to be inspiring were -- obviously trying to be inspiring, by mouthing general inspirational platitudes. It was notably short on substance. He was playing it safe, working hard not to offend while not offering specifics of any kind.

Personally, I don't think he's in tune with the mood of the electorate this time around. I know he's not in tune with my mood. But I must grant that I'm one of the lefties who is hungering for red meat. The only one who delivered on that was John Edwards. Had Kucinich been there he would have too. And for the record, Kucinich is my preferred candidate.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 11:34 AM
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7. Journalists are doing their best to make this a horse race
now. They promoted HRC and got her very comfortably out
front. OH My How Boring. Now Push Obama to see if
he can catch up to her. Same old Horse Race Game Year
after year. You could pick this up vividly on the Sunday
AM shows.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 01:10 PM
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14. AP: Starting Gate: Obama Wows 'Em In Iowa
Starting Gate: Obama Wows 'Em In Iowa

The Barack Obama boomlet has apparently begun. The Illinois senator is getting rave reviews for his speech at the Iowa Democratic Party's Jefferson-Jackson dinner Saturday night.

Want the evidence? Here’s what Iowa's premier political handicapper, David Yepsen, had to say on his Des Moines Register blog about the speech: "It was one of the best of his campaign. The passion he showed should help him close the gap on Hillary Clinton by tipping some undecided caucus-goers his way. His oratory was moving and he successfully contrasted himself with the others - especially Clinton - without being snide or nasty about it. … Should he win the Iowa caucuses, Saturday’s dinner will be remembered as one of the turning points in his campaign in here."

Since Clinton stumbled in the last debate, there has been an air of anticipation surrounding Obama and John Edwards. Would one of them capitalize on the slip and begin to emerge as the alternative to Clinton's seeming march to the nomination? Sure, it's one event, one speech and plenty of road left before the January caucuses. And Obama faces big questions about his strategy. Although all accounts point to a strong organization in the state, it's not at all a slam-dunk that the campaign can harness its support among young and non-traditional caucus-goers, especially just two days after New Years.

Still, it's hard to miss the hype over Obama's candidacy lately. He's managed to be aggressive without being negative for now. Most importantly, his stepped up criticisms of Clinton looks to have answered questions about whether Obama has the mettle to go the distance. After being out-raised by Clinton in the third quarter of this year, and poll after poll outside of Iowa showing the New York Senator with a commanding lead, Obama's campaign appeared to stall. Now, he's reviving his pitch for change – not just in the party controlling the White House but a more fundamental brand.

"If we are really serious about winning this election, Democrats, then we can't live in fear of losing," Obama told Iowa Democrats. "This party, the party of Jefferson and Jackson and Roosevelt and Kennedy, has always made the biggest difference in the lives of the American people when we led not by polls but by principle, not by calculation but by conviction, when we summoned the entire nation to . . . a higher purpose."

Obama rose to national prominence based partly on his rhetorically soaring speech at the 2004 Democratic National Convention. For much of this year, he's not repeated that performance. If he can build on his speech this weekend, the Obama boomlet may yet turn into something resembling the movement his candidacy has promised.

more here: http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2007/11/12/politics/horserace/entry3487283.shtml
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 01:40 PM
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15. I'm 'shocked' no one is critiquing this author or article!
;-)
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 06:57 PM
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17. Helen Keller couldn't have missed it.
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