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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 02:51 PM
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Did John Edwards used to be a senator?
Was he? You wouldn't know it by listening to him speak.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 02:55 PM
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1. Perhaps you should PLANT someone at his next appearance and
ask?:eyes:
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 02:56 PM
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6. I am sure he has enough plants there for softball questions to be asked.
Edited on Tue Nov-13-07 03:00 PM by William769
Why add another one.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 04:18 PM
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28. I'm not so sure the others follow the Clintonian model?
Sorry. Hillary is the undisputed Champ in that respect.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 04:34 PM
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29. She seems to be the undisputed champ in all respects. NT
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Edgeoforever Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 02:55 PM
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2. Pssst! keep it down - mentioning his past record may get you banned from DU
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 02:56 PM
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5. Who was banned for mentioning Edwards' record?
I do it all the time and they don't even delete my posts.
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Basileus Basileon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 02:59 PM
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10. People, I think, like to imagine that most DUers believe what they do, but that
all their like-minded brethren are having their posts and threads disappeared.
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Edgeoforever Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:07 PM
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13. The Count after posting in the Kate Michelman thread
he/she posted that Edwards attacked through surrogates in the past campaign as well (Shelton, Clark) and that Michelman is not so principled as she embraced the one white male candidates who failed to vote against the federal ban on partial birth. A few factual posts in that thread and banned without any explanation, warning - nothing.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:11 PM
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14. The Count is not banned:
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Edgeoforever Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:29 PM
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18. My bad. he/she had posting privileges removed. Silences one just the same.
Still for factual posting.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 04:03 PM
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23. What are you talking about?
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 05:02 PM
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30. Welcome to Du.
Maybe you should leave your paranoia at the door.
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RufusEarl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 02:55 PM
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3. Yes, one term! Do ex senators speak differently?
Peace!
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 02:55 PM
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4. What do you mean by this? n/t
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Basileus Basileon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 02:58 PM
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9. He's run away from his record this campaign.
He's positioning himself as a firebrand progressive, and is castigating Hillary Clinton for playing to the center--all while ignoring the fact that he did exactly that back when he was Senator representing a conservative states, and was a smilin', grinnin', aw-shucksin' prop when he was a VP candidate.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 02:58 PM
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7. What do you mean? n/t
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:16 PM
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17. John Edwards never mentions his stint as Senator
His senate record is like the killer in the movie "Scream." No matter how far he runs, his record chases him.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 02:58 PM
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8. Maybe it is honorary...
You know, like "Colonel" in the South...
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:04 PM
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11. Not only that, he was a founding member of the DLC's "New Democrats" coalition
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 04:14 PM
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26. I know
Mr. self-proclaimed leftiest lefty was a founding memeber of the New Democrats lol. His name also popped up at the global mover's and shaker's Bilderberg shindig. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I wonder what was on the menu for brunch.
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liskddksil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:04 PM
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12. Some accomplishments
Edwards fought hard to include the sunset clause in the Patriot Act to ensure that provisions could be reviewed in the future. He also fought hard to pass the Patients Bill of Rights.
In addition, he Introduced the Spyware Control and Privacy Protection Act and the Fragile X Research Breakthrough Act of 1999.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:16 PM
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16. Edwards is NO friend of the People's Best interests.. Edwards the SMILIN' HAWK!
In September 2002, in the face of growing public skepticism of the Bush administration's calls for an invasion of Iraq, Edwards rushed to their defense in an op-ed article published in the Washington Post.

In his commentary, Edwards claimed that Iraq, which had been successfully disarmed several years earlier, was actually "a grave and growing threat," and Congress should therefore "endorse the use of all necessary means to eliminate the threat posed by Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction."

Claiming that U.S. national security "requires" that Congress grant President Bush unprecedented war powers, he further insisted, "We must not tie our own hands by requiring Security Council action ..."


The Bush administration was so impressed with Edwards' arguments that they posted the article on the State Department website.

http://www.antiwar.com/orig/zunes.php?articleid=3074

Eye opening read of the ever visceral John Edwards scoring points with the Bush Administration..
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liskddksil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:58 PM
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19. And one candidate learned his lesson
Edited on Tue Nov-13-07 03:58 PM by liskddksil
That candidate is Edwards who has uniquevically apologized for his vote. Hillary just made the same mistake again on Kyle-Lieberman.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 04:01 PM
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20. Yes, he learned his lesson *just* as the american public turned against the war
And *JUST* before he ran for president. What a coincidence!
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liskddksil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 04:01 PM
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21. better late than never
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 04:02 PM
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22. That's one way of looking at it, I geuss.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 04:06 PM
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24. When will he apologize for his Bankruptcy Vote?
which leaves the Middle Class at high risk of ending up Poverty stricken.


The K-L Amendment is exactly where it should be, stripped of any language that can be interpreted as a blank check for going to War.

How can you support Edwards' despicable Voting Record?

* Edwards supported a bankruptcy bill that was vetoed by President Clinton. In 2000 John Edwards voted for the Bankruptcy Overhaul bill.
While this bill included a slight increase of the minimum wage, its major design was to revise bankruptcy laws to make it easier for courts to force debtors to repay their debts, while before the law had allowed debtors to discharge their debt. 12 Democrats and 2 Republicans rejected this bill, including Chris Dodd, Ted Kennedy, Paul Wellstone, and Tom Harkin. President Clinton eventually vetoed this bill because it was too hard on debtors.

* Edwards voted for the same bill in 2001, again choosing financial interests over working families. In 2001 Edwards voted for a similar Bankruptcy Overhaul bill that again required Americans facing bankruptcy to undergo debt repayments instead of debt relief. Specifically, the bill required debtors able to pay $10,000 or 25% of their debts over five years to file under Chapter 13, which requires a reorganization of debts under a repayment plan, instead of seeking to discharge their debts under Chapter 7. Edwards voted with nearly the entire Republican caucus in supporting this bill, as well as voting to end debate on the measure. Chris Dodd voted to reject this bill, joining Senators Durbin, Feingold, Harkin, Kennedy, Kerry, and Wellstone. In all, the bill was rejected by 13 Democrats and 2 Republicans.

* Edwards would not allow relief for people who were forced into bankruptcy from medical bills. Edwards also sided with the entire GOP caucus to vote against the Wellstone amendment to the 2001 bill. This amendment would have provided an exemption for debtors who were forced to file for bankruptcy due to medical expenses, under the rationale that health expenses are often unpreventable and can be an especially debilitating cost to low and middle income families. Chris Dodd was one of the 34 Democrats who voted for this amendment?a group that included Senators Clinton, Durbin, Feingold, Harkin, Kennedy, Kerry and Wellstone.

* Edwards rejected a means test amendment that would have protected debtors from sudden financial misfortune. On the same bill, Edwards again voted with the entire GOP caucus to reject an amendment that would have included a more consumer friendly means test than that included in the original bill. The amended means test would have used the average of a debtor's last two months of income to determine their ability to pay a certain threshold amount of debt, instead of the last six months of income. The amended means test was designed to protect debtors who face financial difficulties from sudden job loss or disability. Paul Wellstone, who authored the amendment, said the original test "will make it impossible for families to rebuild their lives." 22 Democrats supported this amendment, including Chris Dodd. Dodd was accompanied by Senators Clinton, Durbin, Feingold, and Kennedy.

* Edwards supported the final version of the Bankruptcy bill that "punishes the vulnerable." Months later, Edwards again voted for the similar version of the Bankruptcy bill that emerged from negotiations with the House of Representatives. He also voted to limit debate twice on the bill, stifling further amendments or arguments. This version was not substantively different from the earlier versions, as it still made it significantly harder for working Americans to discharge their debts through the bankruptcy system. Chris Dodd rejected this bill, along with Senators Durbin, Feingold, Harkin, Kennedy, Kerry and Wellstone. 14 Democrats and 2 Republicans voted against the final measure.

The bill Edwards supported "punishes the vulnerable and it rewards the big banks and credit card companies for their poor practices," said Sen. Paul Wellstone, D-Minn., a leading opponent of the legislation. "We are heading into hard economic times and we're going to make it hard for people to rebuild their lives."

Edwards has been part and parcel of the GOP agenda all the way. Edwards voting record is one of the worst of our Dem Senators. Edwards is helping create poverty in the middle class with his bankruptcy vote and earning millions for himself when working for the Hedge Fund sector. The same Hedge Fund sector that was buying sub-prime mortgages for their investment portfolios.. The same "POVERTY" he now professes to help as the centerpiece of his presidential campaign. It must be hard for Edward's supporters to understand the meaning of the words "poverty" and "hypocrisy", when their candidate, John Edwards exemplifies it so well.

Why shouldn't he, he voted for it!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:11 PM
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15. He was just leaving office when I moved to North Carolina. I heard he wasn't
well liked because he didn't do much for the people at home. I do NOT know if that's accurate or not, and I only heard that from a few people in my small town.

So maybe if he doesn't sound like a senator it's because his stint was so brief.


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murbley40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 04:10 PM
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25. Yes!!
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 04:16 PM
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27. It is with great pleasure that I send this to the greatest page. nt
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