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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 01:17 PM
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American Research Group -Clinton-46% Obama 21% Edwards 11%
http://americanresearchgroup.com/

I have been following their polls since Gore-Bush*... They seem to be a bit of an outlier...
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 01:19 PM
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1. This is a national poll right?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 01:19 PM
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2. Correct
DSB
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 01:25 PM
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6. Then it means nothing.
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Josiah1982 Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 01:39 PM
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7. maybe "it means nothing" because you don't agree with it?
could that be it?:shrug:
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 01:42 PM
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10. Thank You And Welcome To DU
Who's that on your avatar?
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Josiah1982 Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 01:49 PM
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12. thanx for the welcome
:hi:

that's a Warhol image of Jackie "O" Bouvier, Kennedy, Onassis.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 02:26 PM
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14. That's What I Thought
I was in Century City back in 01...Almost made it to Beverly Hills... My girlfriend lives in Koreatown and works for real estate management company with an office above the Kodak Theatre...
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 02:23 PM
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13. Welcome to DU.
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Josiah1982 Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 07:31 PM
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15. Hi emilyg. Thanx for the welcome.
:hi:
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 01:42 PM
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9. They Are Drawn From The Same Universe Of Voters As Those In State Polls
The state polls are polling Iowans and South Carolinians and so forth... It's not as if the national polls are interviewing Spaniards or Norwegians..
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Phunktified Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 01:20 PM
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3. The numbers have barely changed since early october
Their poll prior to this one, taken earlier last month had almost the exact same numbers. Where is this supposed Obama boomlet?
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 01:21 PM
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4. Handy chart
National Primary
Democrats 	Mar 	Apr 	May 	Jun 	Jul 	Aug 	Sep 	Oct 	Nov
Biden 1% 2% 3% 3% 2% 4% 5% 5% 4%
Clinton 34% 36% 39% 39% 38% 36% 39% 45% 46%
Dodd 1% 1% 2% 1% 1% 1% 1% 1% 1%
Edwards 15% 19% 19% 13% 16% 16% 15% 13% 11%
Gravel - - - 1% 1% 1% 1% - -
Kucinich 1% 1% 1% 1% 1% 1% 1% 1% 1%
Obama 31% 24% 22% 19% 25% 21% 21% 20% 21%
Richardson 2% 2% 2% 5% 3% 7% 5% 3% 4%
Undecided 14% 14% 11% 16% 12% 12% 12% 12% 12%


Question wording:
If the 2008 Democratic presidential preference primary/caucus were being held today between (names rotated) Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, Christopher Dodd, John Edwards, Mike Gravel, Dennis Kucinich, Barack Obama, and Bill Richardson, for whom would you vote?

The following results are based on nationwide telephone samples of 600 likely Democratic primary voters and 600 likely Republican primary voters (those saying they will definitely vote in a primary or participate in a caucus in 2008) conducted November 9-12, 2007. The theoretical margin of error for each sample is plus or minus 4 percentage points, 95% of the time.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 01:23 PM
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5. It's A Bit Of An Oulier But Not By Much
DSB
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 01:41 PM
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8. Possibly. Their Hillary number seems right but the Edwards & Obama numbers are slightly lower.
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Ytzak Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 01:44 PM
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11. The Polls won't matter until after Iowa and New Hampshire
Edited on Wed Nov-14-07 01:45 PM by Ytzak
If Hillary takes both of those, is suspect she will likely run the table. People will perceive she is the winner and vote accordingly.

Should another of the candidates take one or both of these states, the entire race will change; like it did in 2004.

The following information from the poll puts things in perspective:
The following results are based on nationwide telephone samples of 600 likely Democratic primary voters and 600 likely Republican primary voters (those saying they will definitely vote in a primary or participate in a caucus in 2008) conducted November 9-12, 2007. The theoretical margin of error for each sample is plus or minus 4 percentage points, 95% of the time.

Just 12 people in each state, on average, determined the outcome of the poll. Was it scientific, yes. Perhaps I am guilty of magical thinking here, but I would rather that the election of the President of 300 million people was not determined by how 600 people nation wide voted in a poll. I will wait until February 5.
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