Here is a big what If........after Iowa Edwards finishes third and quickly becomes Obama's VP..

yourout

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Fri Nov-16-07 08:11 PM
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Here is a big what If........after Iowa Edwards finishes third and quickly becomes Obama's VP..

Would the two run away with the nomination?

I know running mates are normally not chosen till later but if this scenario played out would they beat Hillary?

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laureloak

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Fri Nov-16-07 08:13 PM
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1. What if Edwards WINS Iowa.

I like both Edwards and Obama but I don't think they'll pair up well.

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yourout

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Fri Nov-16-07 08:15 PM
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3. Belive me.....I am a big Edwards supporter but I am also...

realistic.

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laureloak

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Fri Nov-16-07 08:24 PM
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9. If you are realistic then you realize there's a 3-way tie in Iowa?

That lop sided debate last night won't throw Edwards out. He did fine. He continued to point out the differences between himself and Hillary. She is beholden to corporations and he is beholden to the American people. Obama did better last night but he isn't showing any fire. The corporate media pushes for him because they have to have two candidates to split the anti-Hillary vote. Notice how CNN tried to make last nights debate between HC and Obama? That's because Edwards moved ahead of Obama in Iowa and Edwards can beat Hillary one on one. Obama can't.

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jenmito

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Fri Nov-16-07 08:15 PM
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2. Why should Obama pick Edwards as his VP? He adds nothing to the ticket...

he should pick Wes Clark or Joe Biden.

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brentspeak

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Fri Nov-16-07 08:15 PM
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4. Edwards isn't going to be anyone's running mate

Edited on Fri Nov-16-07 08:15 PM by brentspeak

He was a VP candidate once before, but will now run only for President.

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jenmito

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Fri Nov-16-07 08:17 PM
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6. Exactly.

Edited on Fri Nov-16-07 08:17 PM by jenmito

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yourout

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Fri Nov-16-07 08:16 PM
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5. Everyone is missing my point ..... would the pool of votes be enough to stop Hillary?

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jenmito

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Fri Nov-16-07 08:18 PM
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7. If and when Edwards drops out, his supporters will mostly go to Obama anyway.

Edited on Fri Nov-16-07 08:18 PM by jenmito

And he didn't even win NC for Kerry.

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Forkboy

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Fri Nov-16-07 08:28 PM
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11. Do you think it would be because they like Obama or because they don't like Hillary?

Edited on Fri Nov-16-07 08:28 PM by Forkboy

I ask because I see very, very little difference between Hillary and Obama and don't want to vote for either of them myself.If Edwards or Kucinich drops out I'd switch to Biden long before I would go to Obama or Hillary. :shrug:

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jenmito

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Fri Nov-16-07 08:46 PM
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13. Both reasons...

but mostly because Edwards is a more extreme version of Obama. They both are against Hillary and against taking lobbyists' money, against the Kyl-Lieberman bill, and much less hawkish to look tough.

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slick8790

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Sat Nov-17-07 12:34 AM
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15. NC hasn't gone for a Dem since Jimmy Carter in 1976.

Do you really expect him to turn around that deeply red state in one election as a VP?

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Adelante

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Fri Nov-16-07 08:30 PM
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12. I don't believe it would

Edited on Fri Nov-16-07 08:55 PM by WesDem

The only way of speculating with any basis are people's expressed second choices. In the polling I've seen, both Edwards and Obama votes move 2:1 to Clinton over each other. This means in the real world the anti-Hillary constituency so fervently believed in online doesn't half exist. There's no way of knowing that an Edwards VP brings those voters with him to Obama. It could be voters with that second preference just might not like the ticket for one reason or another and go to Clinton anyway.

Adding this from new Iowa poll:

Iowa Caucus: Clinton 29% Edwards 25% Obama 24%

Among those voters who say they might change their mind, there is no clear benefit to any of the top three candidates. Obama supporters who might change their mind are fairly evenly divided on their second choice between Edwards and Clinton. Edwards supporters who might change their mind are similarly divided between Obama and Clinton. And the same pattern holds true for Clinton supporters who might change their mind�they are primarily split between Edwards and Obama. Given the high numbers of voters who say they could change their mind, the race in Iowa remains very fluid.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2008__1/2008_presidential_election/iowa/democratic_iowa_caucus

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gateley

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Fri Nov-16-07 08:21 PM
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8. Interesting - I would think they'd have a good chance of "stopping Hillary"

just by the combination of their supporters.

I was just playing along with your scenario, though.

As someone else said, I don't think Edwards would be interested in being VP. It might be demeaning after the last go-around to not quite make it to the top again.

I'm honestly fascinated to see how this will all play out. The machinations of politics are mind boggling.

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glowing

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Fri Nov-16-07 08:26 PM
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10. Personally, I would love an Edwards/ Kucinich ticket... I think that's

what's splitting people and the indecision that is still out there... the two of them would cream the other potentials.. And what would be better than someone to take on corporate interests, healthcare, and foreign policy issues... It seems like somewhere John realized playing by D.C. rules doesn't work, and decided to talk about what's right, and Dennis is always on the people's side. It could be a precedent for 16 good years of America heading in the right direction.

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JI7

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Sat Nov-17-07 12:07 AM
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14. people would be so turned off by such an arrogant move

that Hillary would win even more votes.

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