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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 05:16 PM
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Obama "scandalous information" a false flag operation?
I don't have a clue, but why not speculate since other DUers who don't have a clue don't mind doing so? Axelrod has been accused before of leaking scandalous information about an Obama opponent. With Iowa getting closer and Obama having had a less than auspicious night at the last debate, why not work with Novak, a noted Clinton Hater, to try to undermine Hillary in a state known to penalize candidates for personal attacks?

After all, if Clinton were actually spreading the scandalous information in Democratic circles, wouldn't there be someone else to substantitate Novak's story by now? I mean if the Clinton campaign was casting its net so wide as to leak to a Democrat willing to immediately leak to Novak, of all people, it must have been telling a fair number of people. Yet, not one has been willing to leak a confirmation of Novak's story.

http://thegarance.com/archives/989

Following Mark Halperin’s instruction to “Find out here” what “you get when you Google “scandalous information” and Obama,” I came across this April 2007 Benjamin Wallace-Wells New York Times story (via The American Thinker) about Obama’s 2004 Senate campaign. Writes Ben:

Axelrod is known for operating in this gray area, part idealist, part hired muscle. It is difficult to discuss Axelrod in certain circles in Chicago without the matter of the Blair Hull divorce papers coming up. As the 2004 Senate primary neared, it was clear that it was a contest between two people: the millionaire liberal, Hull, who was leading in the polls, and Obama, who had built an impressive grass-roots campaign. About a month before the vote, The Chicago Tribune revealed, near the bottom of a long profile of Hull, that during a divorce proceeding, Hull’s second wife filed for an order of protection. In the following few days, the matter erupted into a full-fledged scandal that ended up destroying the Hull campaign and handing Obama an easy primary victory. The Tribune reporter who wrote the original piece later acknowledged in print that the Obama camp had “worked aggressively behind the scenes” to push the story. But there are those in Chicago who believe that Axelrod had an even more significant role — that he leaked the initial story. They note that before signing on with Obama, Axelrod interviewed with Hull. They also point out that Obama’s TV ad campaign started at almost the same time. Axelrod swears up and down that “we had nothing to do with it” and that the campaign’s television ad schedule was long planned. “An aura grows up around you, and people assume everything emanates from you,” he told me.

Ben’s piece is a great profile of Axelrod and well-worth revisting. And maybe the conventional wisdom that Obama was just lucky in having a primary and general election opponent collapse thanks to marital scandals is something that ought to be revisited, too.

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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 05:22 PM
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1. So Obama leaked the story to Novak -- -
Edited on Sun Nov-18-07 05:24 PM by jefferson_dem
that the Hillary camp had an unspecified smear ready to unload on Obama himself?

Y'right... :eyes:

EDIT: This story must be hurting whatever credibility Hillary had left. Her apologists seem to be full "whirling dirvish" spin-mode.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 05:41 PM
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5. After all, Rupert Murdoch held a huge fundraiser for Hillary at her home
she has wonderful conservative connections and I am sure Rupert could help her on something like this.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 05:24 PM
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2. I don't know but Obama's campaign leaked Ryans abnormal
sexual preferences to the press. Or so say a lot of the democrats from Chicago.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 05:26 PM
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"...so say a lot of the democrats from Chicago"...
Pretty massive qualifier there.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 05:26 PM
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3. self-delete.
Edited on Sun Nov-18-07 05:26 PM by jefferson_dem
sorry. ;)
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 05:42 PM
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6. LOL, that sure has a lot of credibility, eom.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 05:32 PM
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4. Could be Obama and Novak worked together on this. They both hate Clinton.
They're not above such shenanigans.
from the OP
The Tribune reporter who wrote the original piece later acknowledged in print that the Obama camp had “worked aggressively behind the scenes” to push the story.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 05:42 PM
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7. Have a link to that. eom.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 05:47 PM
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8. Quote was from the OP. Here is the link posted in the OP for you:
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 05:47 PM
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9. Thanks. eom.
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