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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:54 AM Original message |
Can anyone here demonstrate that national polls are wrong? |
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Byronic (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:01 AM Response to Original message |
1. I think the national polls are largely correct |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Heheh.... |
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lostnotforgotten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:15 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I Will Never Vote For A Bush War Enabler |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 05:26 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. And that has exactly what to do with my question? |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 05:32 PM Response to Reply #7 |
41. It's hard for the one track minds to keep up. |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:17 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I think polls are overall reliable. |
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Yukari Yakumo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 06:43 AM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Totally disagree with the last paragraph. |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 03:33 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Wrong. Edwards is rising in the polls. Hillary is slipping. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 05:32 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Not from what I've seen |
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sss1977 (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 04:13 AM Response to Original message |
6. wrong as in inaccurate, or wrong as in immoral? |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 05:28 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. It's simple... |
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sss1977 (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:27 AM Response to Reply #8 |
21. did you even process what I wrote? |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 05:30 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. If your candidate is not doing well, |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 04:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
33. Thye don't allow them in France until after the last vote has been made. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Well your recollection is faulty |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-21-07 09:41 AM Response to Reply #35 |
54. Why would people favour Hillary and the DLC, when they echo the Republicans, |
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fasttense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 06:27 AM Response to Original message |
11. Yes, there are some polls that have systemic problems. |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 06:50 AM Response to Original message |
13. I think all of the polls are biased toward the Republicans. |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 04:41 PM Response to Reply #13 |
34. Precisely. They're a well-known political tool among the politicians |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 06:56 AM Response to Original message |
14. Reality is that the very first polls should just be published to general |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:05 AM Response to Original message |
15. What does the "polls being wrong on election day" |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. Because |
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mrgorth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:31 AM Response to Original message |
16. Dude, |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:00 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Yes, I think national polls are not as reliable as state poll numbers |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:02 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Your right Iowa and NH will change everything. |
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mrgorth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 09:27 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Larger than Bill? |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 10:01 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Yes he is. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. Polls don't claim to predict what will happen months away.... |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. No need to. Who are you? |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 05:41 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Well |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
17. Polls are correct if the right sampling methods are used |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
20. Any poll not showing Obawards winning the Amazing Race was fixed by Rove and Clinton. |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 10:12 AM Response to Reply #20 |
25. LOL! |
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CK_John (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
22. A poll is a snapshot of the time it is taken. Will it the predict future, is the real question? |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Of course not |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. I agree but I do scrutinize polls more closely to see how big it is and |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 04:49 PM Response to Reply #22 |
37. ...'cep the photoshopping is done before. |
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CK_John (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Many people go though life unable or unwilling to make a decision, they rely on polls to tell them |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-20-07 07:32 PM Response to Reply #43 |
53. Interesting comments. Especially the last one! |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
29. it's not that they are not accurate |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. DING DING DING!!! correct answer |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 04:55 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. Your second sentence is not a corollary of your first one. Since they |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 06:26 PM Response to Reply #29 |
48. And not even the Iowa or New Hampshire polls mean much at this point... |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
32. IMO, Polls are part of an extremely dysfunctional system. They simply serve to reinforce what Media |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 04:55 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. Spot on. Another component of the Republican noise machine. |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
40. Because! |
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IA_Seth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
44. My theory.. |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
45. The national polls aren't wrong, they are just irrelevant. National polls tell how the candidates |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 06:10 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. I agree |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-21-07 10:17 AM Response to Reply #46 |
55. They mean nothing at this point so I don't know why anyone even |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
47. Well go find me a national poll from November 2003... |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 06:26 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. I don't claim they have predictive value |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 06:31 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. They aren't rigged, but it is pretty irresponsible for the media to base coverage on poll numbers |
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dugggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
50. Yes, 2004 presidential election |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 06:39 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. All the polls |
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