If Hillary Clinton gets the nomination

and wins the presidency, I'm gonna LOVE seeing half of this board explode. It's just gonna tickle me.

I'm gonna enjoy it, I'm gonna laugh, I'm gonna really really enjoy it.

I'm gonna enjoy it the same way I loved watching the Clintons defeat Ken Starr. The way they defeated Fox news. I'm gonna just giggle my ass off.

And if she doesn't win the nomination, I will wholeheartedy support the nominee.

Not a single vote has been cast or caucus caucused. Now is not the time to brag about your schadenfreude.

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yes INDEED :thumbsup:

I don't hate her. I don't know her. But I don't trust her. She has no valid stance on the issues that matter to me. They're not even on her radar.

but there is real hate here for Clinton and real haters. I don't agree with the OP. I think it's flamebait, but to acknowledge that there are haters here, is just reality.

She ain't that special.

The hate directed toward Clinton here far exceeds, in both quantity and intensity, the hate directed toward any other candidate. That's simply a fact. And anyone who denies it is simply disingenuous.

are a handful who keep the flame war alive..the defenders and the attackers keep us all distracted from the issues...i'm not buying into any of it anymore...for one thing, its upsetting..and secondly, i only run into these people these days on du ..my favorite site for political info and insight..or on msm...i dont support her..who cares..nobody...what is important is that i understand why i support my favorite candidate..and that i keep those issues at the forefront of any interaction..
there are a few recognizable disrupters on most HRC threads..now, I just scroll thru the names before I read..that seems to eliminate my blood pressure rising..

You just don't know about it because Edwards supporters don't squeal like stuck pigs.

over her many years.

I do not find as much hate as you insist, cali. It's mostly just questioning some of her very very questional moves and votes and choices which spurs on the Clinton supporters to start yelling and pouting and screaming rather than address the topics. You are way off on this one too, cali.

now, what name will you call me for daring to contest the great cali?

disingenuous, dillusional, woo woo... ?? basher, hater..

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Oh, then that explains the 7 years of hell, then. They WON.

And we lost.

as every warning uttered becomes reality.

Always keep your words soft and sweet, just in case you have to eat them.

I know that it's unfair to use a candidate's voting record against them - but i'm a mean person.

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you are just trying to make trouble by digging up things 'from her past'.
:rofl:

Last primary I only remember seeing such anticipation in PM's. I still have that PM BTW, it was pathetic. Also very telling pf the author.

Your post is very disappointing.

Julie

And their defeat of the Middle Class was a laff-riot.

Because Bill also got us into one war after another and was horrible for the middle-class.

:sarcasm:

Clinton bombed Iraq for the whole of his terms. And Kosovo wasn't as a good clean american pie war that many Want to believe - it was more to do with structural adjustments and the WTO than anything.

On the day of the Columbine shooting, bill clintons words were 'and we must not let violence be our solutions.. bla bla ' (paraphasing), meanwhile, he is Bombing Belgrade as he speaks.

if she gets elected. It'll be great having a real Liberal in the WH when either Hillary, Obama, or Kucinich gets in, although it's more likely that Hillary will get it, since more and more of America is loving her every day. Either way, she'll be a great liberal president.

I really don't know why you are expressing such glee over that scenario, but I suppose everyone gets joy from different things. Good luck with your, uh........ vindictiveness.

Most of your posts are reality based. Sorry to see you doing this.

poster who goes on the ignore list.

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Absolutely. Really there is only one difference between the op's statements and most HRC hate flamebait. It's honesty, and unlike many Clinton detracters/haters, the author's pledge to not abandon the Democratic Party to the repugs if his chosen candidate is not nominated. And if HRC does win the nomination, the laugh will be more than justified, and deserved, in my opinion. Thanks.
quickesst

And all critics were called haters.

I see a lot of similarities here.

First, the assumption is that you are "either for us or against us". The Bushies thought if you didn't support iraq, you were for the terrorists. Hillary supporters seem to be saying if you don't support Hillary, you are supporting the Republicans. Same kool aid, different flavor.

Those who do not want to see Hillary nominated are NOT wanting to help the Reps. In fact, many/most don't support her BECAUSE the DO NOT want a Republican victory and see a Hillary nomination as the riskiest of our possible choices.

It is all well and good to look forward to being vindictive and gloat if she wins and go back to the Democrats who wanted a stronger candidate and shove it in their faces, which is the fantasy of the OP. But this is not the only outcome. It is also possible that, in spite of all the shouting that we will win no matter who is the nominee and gloating that Hiollary is inevitable, the Reps could still win. In this case, I don't see anyone going to be gloating around here. It would be a squandered opportunity of historic proportions. We SHOULD win in 08. Not only that, we SHOULD make significant gains in both houses of Congress. It SHOULD be a transformational election that could bring Democratic majorities for years to come. Or we could blow it all by nominating the one candidate who could possibly lose. And that would be Hillary. No, I promise not to gloat if Hillary loses. I will be too depressed at eight more years of rule by idiots.

If Hillary wins, it would be by the closest of margins. Probably only a point or two. No coat tails. No significant change in Congress, which would still be able to filibuster major legislation. A continued polarization of our society as the media continue the Hillary Flame Wars during her administration. Sorry, but this I see as the best-case scenario for a Hillary "victory" and it isn't nearly as good an outcome as what would happen if any other Democrat is nominated.

for proving my point with your opening statement.

"The Bushies thought if you didn't support iraq, you were for the terrorists. Hillary supporters seem to be saying if you don't support Hillary, you are supporting the Republicans. Same kool aid, different flavor."

If you are talking about the nomination process, your statement is patently false, and proof that nothing is beyond HRC haters. If you are talking about the General election, then the statement is not only appropriate, but patently true. If you do not support the dem nominee, regardless of who it is, then yes, you are aiding the repugs in their quest for four more years of misery. Nice try though. Thanks.
quickesst

Will you still be laughing?

that HRC will, in fact, start a war with Iran. Your assumption is the reason I cannot bring myself to waste any more time than it takes to write this reply. Thanks.
quickesst

have. I guess that is ok. It's nothing personal. Good luck to you.

I love it :D

CU (Clinton Underground)

I remember when the 1000 donation mark would get easily broken and there was more substantive discussion.

I just can't wait for the nomination to be handed off so that all the people who are only here to pump hrc can crawl back under their rocks. I'm tired of the distain for activism, progressive principal, and the netroots in general that these people bring here.

Whoever the nominee is it'll be good to see this place go back to something I recognize.

I would hate to see sour grapes. :hi:

You sound like Terry MacAulliffe. My middle finger salutes you.

The SANE 80%, I might add.

Oh, and if Hillary is the Democratic nominee, then you can "enjoy it, laugh, really really enjoy it." when President Giuliani is inaugurated in 2009.

This is precisely the attitude that those in opposition dislike about Hilbots.

I believe that if HRC wins the nomination, Dems will stay away from the polls in droves.

I believe this because I know that I will not EVER vote for her. I'd vote for Ron Paul, first - at least HE didn't get into the House riding on his wife's back...

this is DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND. Ron Paul is a repug and a filthy racist one at that. There is no room here for Ron Paul supporters at least not if you expound on his "virtues" to the detriment of one of our Democratic candidates. It's strictly against the rules.

Oh, and welcome to DU, by the way.:hi:

than you. At least the OP said he/she will support the candidate. You are only helping the other side. Congratulations on your myopia.

Oh joy of joys, if Clinton takes the White House. Repug's head's will explode and instantly the Clinton haters here will have to start singing a different tune.

Of course if she doesn't win and another one of our candidate's wins, I shall rejoice and behave myself.

kick and recommend

I don't envy anyone who wins the Whitehouse. In Hillary's case, there are those who have such strong feelings against her that they will watch her every move, waiting to trip her up.

Just what is it about Hillary that engenders such enmity? I must admit that she is not my favorite....just about last choice as a matter of fact. Heaven knows how much this bothers me but no matter how hard, I can't bring myself to favor her.

Go figure.

a free ride? Puhhhleeze! The repugs hate all our democratic candidates. Don't think they will cut them some slack. Welcome to DU, by the way.:hi:

For myself, I gave up on her when she voted to give DimSon the power to wage illegal war in 2002, then threw Kerry under the campaign bus (in tandem with Schumer) in 2004. I just have no respect for her.

Even if I actually WANTED to vote for a Republican, I STILL couldn't bring myself to cast a ballot for her.

hate Hillary. Was this really necessary? And before you go all postal on me, I'm a Hillary supporter myself and you make me sick.

considering the threads started last night using the most ridiculous right-wing attacks against her, yes, I considered it necessary.

The sources used to attack her here are just ridiculous, and the people who use them are scum, and deserve to be taunted, attacked, teased and diddled with a sharp stick.

What does that make you?

This thread doesn't mention any other candidates. Don't be daft.

There is going to come a point where we have a nominee that we are ALL going to have to gather around to get elected. Do you think you're helping this to happen? Seriously? (a Grey's Anatomy moment).

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Seeing Rush and Hannity's heads explode would be worth it.

Picture the Bush administration.

Hillary will outsource you job, break up unions, and bring in illegal and legal (visa) immigrants. And as Spitzer said illegal immigrant drivers licenses are a federal thing as he changed his mind (which Hillary was the first one he told)Hillary will make it a federal thing if she gets in. Oh and the flip flopping of how many times 5? 3? Yeah that's right FIVE TIMES! OMG! Rudy would luv that.

And if you don't want change from corruption then vote for Hillary.

I notice most on this board bash other candidates and never talk about the issues of Hillary. The same thing Hillary does when she keeps saying no mud slinging.

This just touches the surface of how dirty Hillary is. But I'll leave you with this. She said "Having been in the White House, I know that Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction."

And it's all over the net, so do your own googling.

it sure will be fun!

What about when she privatizes social security? Or when we bomb Iran at the behest of AIPAC? Or when she refuses to repeal the Patriot Act and restore habeas Corpus?
Will you still be laughing then?

ridiculous things like that, yes, I will still be laughing.

Otherwise 99% here will cry. I couldn't blame people for the comtempt they would feel if Clinton won the nomination and lost the GE. There's going to be a lot of "I told you so."

that funded her campaign will laugh all the way to the bank, or breathe a sigh of relief that a corporate democrat, who is at the very least sympathetic to their agenda, is in office rather than a populist.

Assuming they haven't already starting laughing...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20071026/cm_huffpost/070052

I'd like to see half the board enlist to go and fight in Iraq.

Sorry, but I feel that strongly about a new direction for our country.

Hey, just trying to save you a few bucks when you move. It's expensive up there so splitting the expenses of a condo might not be a bad idea.

You kiss your mother with that mouth?:puke:

But she will get my vote.

"And if she doesn't win the nomination, I will wholeheartedy support the nominee."

Will you eat that shit sandwich you're shopping around to the rest of us then as well?

What are you going on about?

I'm not predicting anything in this thread. I'm saying IF she wins the nomination, I'll be gleeful.

And did you remember the other prediction I made in the Nobel thread? So far, that one's spot-on.

People here predict stuff every day. Some even predict Kucinich will be the nominee. Do you stalk them, too?

You've carefully parsed your words this time so you can't be held to account for your words.

"And did you remember the other prediction I made in the Nobel thread? So far, that one's spot-on."

Actually, a prediction cannot be 'spot-on' until it comes true. Until then it is just an opinion.

I'll be excited as well,, it will be a significant point in history having a woman as the nominee. Next , having a woman elected. This is important to the fabric of this country.

First things first though; she has to win or do well in Iowa and New Hampshire.

I won't re- state why I don't support her as a primary candidate.

A very nice response. I know you don't support her, but it sure WOULD be exciting to have a woman nonimated and elected.

We saw a catalog with a Hillary nutcracker.

We will mail it to a former acquaintance who finally stopped emailing me all the anti-Hillary and anti-Ted Kennedy vulgar "jokes."

Happy that we will be getting a short respite between Bushie Vampirism.

Happy that we will probably be receiving a few benefits and that our economy might be somewhat and temporarily healed. The environment will also get a short rest from the plunder and carnage, but only a slight one.

But I will expect NOTHING from Sen. Clinton on any of the improtanat problems that are facing our nation, which is literally the loss of our System of Checks and Balances, not to mention the privatization of our voting system which has taken away any validity it once had.

I will expect NOTHING from Sen. Clinton on the front of prosecuting the worst State Crminals America has ever seen, the Bushies, who easily outstrip even Aaron Burr and make Nixon's Felonious Bunch look like some disorganized Girl Scout.

And after four or perhaps eight (unlikely) years of this "resty", in whichthe status quo moves not a millimeter and all Bushie Crminals go free free free, I expect the next Royal Bushie will come and pick up right where they left off.

But I will vote for Sen. Clinton, because a rest from vampirism is a rest from vampirism.

ends in defeat, and we have a Republican president?

Of all the Democratic candidates, she is the least electable against the Republicans, IMO.

Republican-Lite is STILL Republican.

If ANY of the other nominees wins the nomintion, they will have the support of pretty much the entire Democratic Party.

If HRC wins, she will not. It's a no-brainer.

She's NOT getting MY vote, either.

got it off your system...all of it? Good...now let's get back to real stuff.

Like supporting candidates that are unequivocal on wars, aggressive foreign policy, standing for the constitution, getting us to invest in alternative energy, and universal health care.

Hillary's falling short on that...and that's what I'm looking for in my candidate.

we'd WANT her to win the presidency. We just think it will be much harder for HER to win the presidency than others.