Those Who Call Hillary BUSH-Lite Are Using Faux News Tactics, Too

Tonight on Countdown, KO called out Laura Ingram, who is subbing for O'Reilly. Laura told lefties that they should be calling Hillary Bush in a dress. The funny thing is that on DU a lot of people claiming to be ardent left wingers have been saying that kind of stuff and worse about Hillary Clinton for months.

Makes you wonder if all of them are really left leaning Democrats.

Could some of them be Republicans who think like Miss Laura, trying to stir up trouble?

There is no way that Bill Clinton would ever marry someone as dumb, evil minded, greedy and vain as George W. Bush, let along promote that person for the next president of the United States. The key word that Big Dog has always used for Hillary is "idealistic".

She may be a lot of things, but W. she ain't.

http://www.biblestudymanuals.net/mt7.htm

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(v. 15) "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

(v. 16) You will know them by their fruits.

Everything the Hillary equals Bush-Lite folks are selling is rotten produce.

It's a stupid tactic.

And unnecessary. My issues with her as a candidate are reflected in her own words. "Lobbyists represent real Americans."

Well, yeah...some do. PFAW, The Sierra Club, Greenpeace, Planned Parenthood, etc... Many do NOT. I can tell the difference between those who represent real Americans and those who represent multinational corporations and powerful industrial interests... question is, can she? Does she even WANT to?

for a poverty community-based organization. I've lobbied city councils on behalf of an AIDS agency.

Yes, some lobbyists represent real people.

Some do. Some do not.

My point, though, is that attacking Clinton for not automatically hating all lobbyists is just silly.

All the groups I donate to (Planned Parenthood, ACLU, Americans United, etc.) all have lobbyists.

Lobbying is American as apple pie - it's a right protected in our constitution. Using the word "lobbyist" as an automatic smear is just dumb.

Oil and gas aren't the only lobbies in town, after all.

I've learned to take these sort of pronouncements with a huge grain of salt. After all, in 2000 we were told that there was absolutely no difference between electing Gore and electing Bush and I doubt anyone in their right mind believes that today.

nobody in their right mind believes it. Sadly, a distressing number of DUers still do.

a lot of people respected his judgment and went along with him. Nader was encouraged by Grover Norquist of all people! That is why it is so important to nip this whole "Hillary equals Bush" insanity in the bud. Because she may be the nominee. And then people who would rather die than admit that they were suckered by the "Gore equals Bush" scam in 2000 (you know that at least 5% of the voters in a lot of places were) are going to fall for the Hillary equals Bush scam.

You can fool some of the people all of the time. Especially is you hire convincing sounding movie stars and celebrities to say it.

Remember those?

It's like, part of democracy.

Jesus, you guys are earning your checks though.

or that it was inevitable.

Only the people rabidly opposed to her make that point, and frankly, it's a little worn out.

But we are in Primary season now and Clinton has to run against opponents. Her ardent supporters seem to view this as an unwarranted annoyance, but that's still the fact.

Ultimatley it is up to her to convince voters one way or the other.

We are all entitled to say what we think.

I almost never see a post regarding statements of Hillary on issues. Hillary supporters always seem to want to focus on personal loyalty and peripheral issues such as how the world is so unfair to Hillary. One of the reasons that I support Edwards is that, when I go to his website, I find clear statements of his views on the issues including some of the issues below.

I might trust Hillary more if I could figure out where she stands on these issues. If you are a Hillary supporter, please help me out here. What are her views on these issues? If you don't know where she stands on these issues offhand, maybe you can find out.

1) Will Hillary state whether she thinks Bush lied to get Americans to support the war in Iraq?
2) Will Hillary state whether she made a mistake when she trusted Bush and voted for the Iraq War Authorization Bill?
3) Will Hillary end surveillance of electronic communications without a warrant?
4) What will Hillary do to diminish corporate influence in our government?
5) Will Hillary renegotiate trade agreements? Which ones?
6) Will Hillary try to enforce the labor and environmental standards our current agreements have?
7) How does Hillary intend to pay for her health care plan?
8) Will Hillary raise taxes on the very rich?
9) Will Hillary continue to support full funding of Social Security benefits?
10) Will Hillary declare war on Iran?
11) Will Hillary open up our government and make it more transparent?
12) What will Hillary do to increase participation by ordinary citizens in our government?
13) What is Hillary's stance on illegal immigration?
14) What is Hillary's stance on privatization of our schools, roads, military and military support?
15) What is Hillary's stance on the privatization of utilities?
16) What is Hillary's stance on changing the Medicare law on prescription benefits for seniors?
17) Will Hillary restore habeas corpus?
18) Will Hillary limit or end the use of signing statements?
19) Will Hillary clarify her stance on the unitary executive? Is she for or against it?
20) What measures will Hillary take to end the excessive corruption in our federal government?
21) Will Hillary release the papers of prior presidents pursuant to the laws on this issue passed by prior Congresses?
22) Will Hillary release Bill Clinton's presidential papers in a timely matter?
23) Will Hillary finally release all the Reagan and Bush papers, especially those pertaining to Iran-Contra?
24) Will Hillary instruct her Justice Department to pursue legal action as appropriate against those in previous administrations who have committed criminal acts including illegal payoffs and other corruption?
25) Will Hillary promise to appoint an Attorney General who will not be overly political in using the great power of the Attorney General's office?
There are more questions, but this is a start.

But be prepared for dozens more posts on national poll numbers and "personal loyalty and peripheral issues
such as how the world is so unfair to Hillary."

Does NOT equate them to anything Faux News says or does. :grr:

while Bush Lite is a bad analogy, expressing disdain doesn't prove someone isn't a liberal. The Clinton's proved during their 8 years that they're more than willing to throw those of us on the far left under the bus when it suits them.

Their triangulating ways are less acute and quite obtuse.

Pun intended.

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