Is Hillary like Rumsfeld and Cheney? Is Hillary dishonest and Obama honest?

I realize the media has given Obama a free pass to say pretty much what he pleases, but isn't he going a little bit too far in the statement below? I don't agree with Hillary on her IWR vote, but she has a record far more progressive than any Republican that's been in or near the White House lately. Is it honest to compare her to Cheny and Rumsfeld? Is it honest to suggest Hillary is all about posture and positioning, while Obama is all about judgment and honesty?

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2007/11/20/politics/horserace/entry3528274.shtml

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"Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld have spent time in the White House and travelled to many countries as well, but along with Hillary Clinton they led us into the worst foreign policy disaster in a generation and are now giving George Bush the benefit of the doubt on Iran," said Obama spokesman Bill Burton. "The real choice in this election is between conventional Washington thinking that prizes posture and positioning, or real change that puts judgment and honesty first."

Anyone who thinks that's an apt comparison, should be ashamed of themselves.

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he's trying to associate her with Rumsfeld and Cheney, just as Edwards tries to link link her to repubs and to corruption. Wonder if John Edwards thinks this fits the definition of mudslinging?

Is she a deranged alcoholic pill popper? Just how is she like Nixon. It's so easy, isn't it, to simply make a blanket smear?

that like Nixon she is reviled by the left and the right. I was not really aware Nixon was seen that way myself.

I'm sure you'll be happy to.

He's making a point that sitting in the WH does not equate to cluefullness, of course. And clearly that's true, since our "experienced from day one" candidate absolutely blew the single most important Senate vote in decades.

Absolutely blew it.

Given such a shattering lapse in judgment, I'm stunned that anyone could consider her for re-election to the Senate, let alone elevation to the Presidency.

Do you have a memory problem, are is it just standard issue hypocricy?

And he absolutely is trying to link her to Rumsfeld and Cheney. He could have used any number of people as an example.

Why do you think I feel otherwise?

She certainly shares the characteristic with Cheney and Rumsfeld of being stunningly clueless about going to war - which happens to be, far and away, the most important thing that our government does

...unless you'd just like to ram one more misconception about Hillary down everyone's throats under the guise of some blog.

nt

in the article.

But O - he IS the voice on a new kind of politics - hopeful and not divisive...bla bla bla.


It will come back to bite him in the a** tho, I believe.

not have the judgment to oppose the war.

she played politics when she voted for the war. Same as Kerry did. And Dean had every right to jump on Kerry for his vote. And I'm saying that as a die-hard Kerry supporter.

first dishonest sentence. Free pass? :eyes:

Obama was defending himself against the criticism Hillary had about his inexperience. He's obviously proving that the loads of experience rummy and cheney had didn't help them avoid the foreign policy disaster they're responsible for. He is comparing her to the beltway insiders who posture and position, but I have to agree there.

And it's not dishonesty to say the media is giving Obama a free pass since that's what I think is happening. I may be incorrect (I'm not), but it's hardly dishonesty.

I shouldn't have used the word 'dishonest'. I do think you're misinformed if you've been reading here for any length of time. Prior to this week it was all Clinton, just about all the time. That is my perception anyway.

I notice that the sexist shit posted about Clinton doesn't phase you in the tiniest way. Interesting. And sorry, he is just trying to link her to Rummy and Cheney. They're all slinging mud now- Edwards, Clinton and Obama. It's not pretty whoever is doing it.

out of the same kind of mouth. He uses his hands, his feet and he breathes.....isn't this stupid...anything to bash Hillary Clinton. But then when you are as desperate...simply desperate as the Obama supporters you say nearly anything.