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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 11:04 AM
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Jimmy Carter is deeply religious
and he has always been very open about his faith. Good for him, and good for Obama for being the same way. As long as their progressive values aren't compromised, it's nice to know religion is not OWNED by the GOP.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 11:07 AM
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1. yep, good for both of them
there's no problem with that. the problem is compromising or letting the religious right frame an issue.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 11:10 AM
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2. And who is doing that?
Obama is actually trying to make fundies comfortable with a progressive agenda. Ain't that a beautiful thing?
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 11:10 AM
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3. They are lucky.
Being deeply religious : Becoming a bigot :: Smoking : Getting lung cancer

As we all know, many people who smoke never get lung cancer. But, it does increase the risks.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 11:11 AM
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4. and he didn't suggest Democrats should court Evangelicals for their votes
Jimmy Carter was a devoted Evangelical who kept his faith out of other people's business.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 11:14 AM
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5. So does Obama. They both talk about it in public, though.
Remember Jimmy's interview with Playboy?
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 11:38 AM
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13. Remember when Carter had a homophobic bigot emcee a fundraiser?
Oh yeah, he never did.

Or the time when Carter said he wanted to establish a Kingdom on Earth.

Oops, he never said that either.

There is a difference between having strong faith, as Carter does, and using one's faith to pander to voters, as Obama does.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 11:22 AM
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6. Have you read Carter's book: Our Endangered Values: America's Moral Crisis
In that book he expresses the pain at having to decide to leave the church he had belonged to for a long time because of the leadership's move to political enterprise rather than traditional church endeavors. It is a gut wrenching chapter.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 11:26 AM
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7. Thank you for posting this. It reinforces Carter's position on separation of church & state
and no, I haven't read that book yet. :)
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 11:27 AM
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8. No doubt about it. Check out this ad from 1980...
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 11:27 AM
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9. Zing!
Thanks, jeff!
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 11:37 AM
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12. No zing,
That clip said that Carter is a deeply religious man, but it doesn't show him suggesting that Americans should pray over their decisions.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 11:55 AM
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15. No zing zing
Edited on Mon Nov-26-07 11:56 AM by jefferson_dem
Who suggested that "Americans should pray over their decisions"?

If you're more comfortable with a campaign commercial by Carter, entitled "Bible", celebrating the fact that, above all else, he is a man of faith than you are with Obama's defense of a pro-choice abortion position to a bunch of "fundies"...that's obviously your prerogative.

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By the way, here's some recent material regarding Carter's position on abortion

Preacher Jimmy says drop abortion, go to church

Former President Jimmy Carter has what he thinks is a winning message for Democrats in 2008: Stop obsessing about and politicizing abortion and go to church. "I think that to let deeply religious people and the moderates on social issues like abortion feel like the Democratic Party cares about them and understands them is a crucial element that has to be inserted for victory in 2008," says the moderate Democrat and Sunday-school teacher. On a book tour to promote his latest, Our Endangered Values: America's Moral Crisis, Carter has been speaking out against liberals almost as much as he has against the policies of President Bush.

But few issues get him sputtering about his party more than abortion and the problem party leaders have relating to churchgoing folks. "I think our party leaders, some of them, are overemphasizing the abortion issue," he says. "Many Democrats, like me, have some concern, say, about late-term abortion, where you kill a baby as it's emerging from the mother's womb and so forth. And to make that a litmus test of democracy, I think, hurts our party."

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/whispers/archive/november2005.htm
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 12:00 PM
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16. I don't need anyone, particularly a man,
suggesting that I need to be prayerful when I make my decisions. I don't mind the fact that politicians are religious as much as I loath it when they use religion in secular issues.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 11:32 AM
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10. Couldn't stand that about Carter either.
Plus he was a big fan of deregulation, which turned out to be the start of the neolib disaster we are now stuck with.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 11:34 AM
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11. Right.
In fact, the vast majority of people in the United States are religious. Without exception, every important election in our country is decided by religious folks.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 11:47 AM
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14. Bingo. nt
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