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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 08:54 PM Original message |
Suspending my support for Kucinich because of Ron Paul |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. It dropped Kucinich a notch on my list. Anyone who wants to learn about Ron Paul, read this: |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 09:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
114. Yesterday I donated my third $100 to DK. Today I'm DROPPING him from my list. |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 09:48 AM Response to Reply #114 |
115. Make sure you tell his campaign that you are dropping him |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 10:00 AM Response to Reply #115 |
116. I would like to. |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 10:13 AM Response to Reply #116 |
118. I sent my note through his Presidential campaign website |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 10:25 AM Response to Reply #118 |
121. Thanks. I'll try. But I don't have much faith that any Presidential candidate |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 10:31 AM Response to Reply #121 |
124. Feel free to use the phrase |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 10:32 AM Response to Reply #124 |
125. Thank you. Thank you. And again, thank you. |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 08:01 PM Response to Reply #125 |
191. Hi, Seabiscuit. |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 09:57 PM Response to Reply #191 |
211. Please do! |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 01:11 AM Response to Reply #211 |
219. If I hear anything, |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 01:17 AM Response to Reply #219 |
220. Thanks so much, Maat. I hope for DK's sake you have good news to report. |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 01:22 AM Response to Reply #220 |
221. Me too! (n/t) |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 11:17 AM Response to Reply #114 |
127. unlike gore, who from his pro-nafta, pro-Iraq WarI-stance, wanted to bring a |
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txaslftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 03:21 PM Response to Reply #127 |
148. LOL. |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 06:45 PM Response to Reply #127 |
178. If Edwards and Obama are right-wingers, then |
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Voltaire99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 06:12 PM Response to Reply #114 |
172. Thanks for the contribution, now run along! |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 06:59 PM Response to Reply #172 |
183. I didn't contribute to you, so who are you to thank me? |
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suziedemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 07:43 PM Response to Reply #114 |
190. What about Chris Dodd? |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 08:56 PM Response to Reply #190 |
205. I am too. |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 08:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
194. At least it's not as crazy as |
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ORDagnabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
2. so you'll be voting |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 08:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Paul is the opposite of Progressive |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Paul's record in congress, if this helps. |
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Greyskye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 03:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
145. HOLY CRAP! |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 06:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
180. DK should be strapped into a chair and forced to read every word of that until he chokes on it. |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Tell me why Paul is a good VP choice? Specifically, how is he anti-corporate? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:16 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. If I explain why can I get a pledge of not being accused of being a Paul supporter? |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:24 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Paul is very PRO corporate. He only CLAIMS to be anti corporate |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:38 PM Response to Reply #28 |
43. Exactly. His nutty libertarianism is corporatism's best friend. |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:25 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. 1. For you to answer the question |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:47 AM Response to Reply #7 |
79. Kucinich answered why he might be a good choice |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 03:24 PM Response to Reply #79 |
149. Oh bullshit |
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leftist_not_liberal (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 06:32 PM Response to Reply #79 |
175. Fuck.Bi. Par. Ti. San. Ship. |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 06:59 PM Response to Reply #175 |
182. like Malcolm X enlisting George Wallace |
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leftist_not_liberal (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 09:30 PM Response to Reply #182 |
208. Nice Try |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 10:42 PM Response to Reply #208 |
215. Deviously? |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 07:09 PM Response to Reply #175 |
187. Eggsactly. Once upon a time, long long ago, |
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GMFORD (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 06:34 PM Response to Reply #79 |
176. I'm all for bi-partisanship |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 07:03 PM Response to Reply #176 |
185. droppong your support |
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rAVES (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #79 |
193. Nailed it.. but Shillery can do what she likes.. you know that.. all the top tierers can. |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 08:38 PM Response to Reply #193 |
198. Yep, like Colin "I swear it's true" Powell is just fine. n/t |
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Catch22Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. They're all the same (just like Bush and Gore) |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:25 PM Response to Reply #9 |
31. Thank you, Ralph Nader |
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Catch22Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:46 PM Response to Reply #31 |
48. Perhaps I wasn't clear |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:53 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. D'oh!! |
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Catch22Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:56 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. HEHE, no sweat! |
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Voltaire99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 06:17 PM Response to Reply #31 |
173. Heh. Ralph's 1,000 times the democrat you are. |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
17. I'll be voting for a DEMOCRAT who will presevere a woman's right to choose |
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whirlygigspin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:45 PM Response to Reply #17 |
45. the sole Constitution defender running for president... |
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Kucinich4America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:23 PM Response to Reply #17 |
59. I'll be voting for a DEMOCRAT who will restore the Constitution. |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:47 AM Response to Reply #59 |
78. The 1929 constitution. |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #78 |
143. Actually I would say the 1860 Constitution, just prior to the Civil War /nt |
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Kucinich4America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #143 |
152. So Dennis Kucinich would restore slavery?? |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 08:47 PM Response to Reply #152 |
201. You are not particularly intelligent by calling me a "hillbot", since |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
3. Why not try Lyndon LaRouche for president? |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Heading for the liquor cabinet |
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Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. Politicians have been breaking my heart for 35 years now.... |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:24 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. Me, too. |
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Progressive Friend (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
8. Everyone needs to calm down about this |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:08 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. He supports institutionalized racism, sexism, is anti-choice, |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. no, no, no, no, no, you have it all wrong, he just wants to move the clock back a bit |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:18 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. I realize it. |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 02:40 PM Response to Reply #23 |
142. much better analogy than I made, you win /nt |
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Progressive Friend (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:22 PM Response to Reply #11 |
25. RP would not be able to do any of those things, even if he became the VP of the US |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:26 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. You think every listener to Rush and Coulter et al wouldn't be gunning for President K? |
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Progressive Friend (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:29 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. No, because Limbaugh and Coulter hate both Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:58 PM Response to Reply #25 |
67. Ron Paul should be marginalized, not validated |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 05:41 PM Response to Reply #67 |
229. ITA! |
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bonito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
42. I agree |
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ConfidentialStatus (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:09 AM Response to Reply #8 |
72. Didn't you get the memo |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:48 AM Response to Reply #8 |
80. bwahahaha |
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RiverStone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #8 |
156. here ya go |
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Kucinich4America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
10. Anyone who agrees with the OP here better not be voting for Hillary. |
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Progressive Friend (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Honestly, I think a lot of the DLC hacks here hate Ron Paul BECAUSE he is anti-war |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:52 AM Response to Reply #12 |
84. i think you're full of |
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Voltaire99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 06:02 PM Response to Reply #84 |
170. "I've marched in DC against the war 3x" |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 10:24 AM Response to Reply #12 |
120. Uh-huh |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 05:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
231. Nonsense |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:10 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Read up on Ron Paul. |
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Kucinich4America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:26 PM Response to Reply #14 |
33. Ron Paul has some repugnant beliefs on any number of issues. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:00 AM Response to Reply #33 |
69. and how would you choose between Lieberman and David Duke |
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Kucinich4America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #69 |
138. If the candidates were actually those two, that would be the election in which I really would |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #33 |
136. say what you like about "Holy Joe" |
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Kucinich4America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:33 PM Response to Reply #136 |
137. When Holy Joe excuses absolutely any action taken by Likud Israel against its neighbors |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 02:55 PM Response to Reply #137 |
144. whatever.... |
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txaslftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 03:28 PM Response to Reply #137 |
150. Whoah there nelly. Those are Palistinians, not people. |
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razors edge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 08:30 PM Response to Reply #150 |
197. They are the children |
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whirlygigspin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
39. chose well |
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Kucinich4America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:28 PM Response to Reply #39 |
60. I don't want to drag this thread into side issues |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:44 PM Response to Reply #10 |
66. Is Hillary a racist, pro-life loon? |
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Progressive Friend (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:03 AM Response to Reply #66 |
71. No, but she wants war with Iran and voted for war against Iraq |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:22 AM Response to Reply #71 |
76. No, she doesn't "want war with Iran" and plenty of dems voted for IWR |
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Progressive Friend (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 02:06 AM Response to Reply #76 |
90. Yes, she does want war with Iran |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 03:13 AM Response to Reply #90 |
97. Rubbish. |
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rAVES (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 08:23 PM Response to Reply #97 |
195. Yea certainly not when it suits you... |
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txaslftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #71 |
157. She doesn't give a rat's ass about Iran or Iraq. |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 11:32 AM Response to Reply #10 |
132. Lieberman is not worse than Paul; they're both revolting |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
13. If this is accurate, then I have to agree with you. Except for Iraq |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:11 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Listen to the clip. It's real until he renounces it. nt |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:17 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Very sad... |
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bluetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 12:13 AM Response to Reply #16 |
217. Another poster got the audio of his "renouncement": |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
19. Glen Greenwald...Ron Paul distortions and smears |
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bellasgrams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:25 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Listen with your own ears |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:33 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. I've listened to him many times on CNBC and also at one time |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:55 AM Response to Reply #38 |
86. yeah, protecting the Constitution circa 1789 |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 02:10 AM Response to Reply #86 |
91. Or at least 1913 - pre Income tax. |
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AlertLurker (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
22. Thanks. It's not evidence I wanted to hear, but it's evidence, anyway. |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:19 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Look up Paul's voting record |
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AlertLurker (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:48 PM Response to Reply #24 |
50. shit. |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:27 PM Response to Reply #22 |
35. Find out more here: |
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stuartrida (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:46 PM Response to Reply #22 |
46. Of course it hasn't changed your opinion one bit |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #22 |
126. Lst night at the GOP debate Paul said he would not run as an independent |
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FreepFryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
27. I love Kucinich but this is a deal-breaker. Paul doesn't belong in Washington, much less the Oval. |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
30. If Kucinich can parlay this into bipartisan support for impeachment, it would be worth it |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #30 |
196. Except that Ron Paul is opposed to impeachment |
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superkia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
37. If we dont vote for the candidate that is standing up for our... |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:34 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. If his running mate won't support the constitution |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:36 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Ron Paul doesn't believe in a woman's right to choose... |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:46 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. Ron Paul thinks this should be a state issue if my memory is |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:49 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. He also said in the debate tonight that, as an OB doctor, he's... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:59 AM Response to Reply #49 |
87. he wants a constitutional amendment declaring life begins at freakin conception |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:59 PM Response to Reply #41 |
68. Kooch isn't pro choice either. |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:13 AM Response to Reply #68 |
75. Not true, he now sees the necessity for a woman to have the |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:43 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. I suggest |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:53 AM Response to Reply #77 |
85. I suggest the reason he mentioned Paul is that they both believe |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 02:01 AM Response to Reply #85 |
88. But in no universe |
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razors edge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 08:38 PM Response to Reply #88 |
199. Oh yeh, |
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Voice for Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 06:58 PM Response to Reply #85 |
181. agree |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 09:42 PM Response to Reply #181 |
209. These are the only two people, that I can see, who would expose |
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Voice for Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 09:54 PM Response to Reply #209 |
210. agree again |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 11:50 AM Response to Reply #210 |
227. Important point that you make here... |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 05:36 PM Response to Reply #181 |
228. You're half right. Kucinich isn't an idiot. But Paul IS evil. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 08:10 AM Response to Reply #68 |
100. No sense in lying. |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 08:06 AM Response to Reply #41 |
99. yeah, and most of the dems are against equality |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 08:39 AM Response to Reply #99 |
104. Are you talking about marriage between gays? |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 08:44 AM Response to Reply #104 |
105. fair enough but |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 08:53 AM Response to Reply #105 |
110. All I can say is that there are probably a lot of voters who can't relate... |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:41 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. Very well said, I think you hit the nail on the head. Any other |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:46 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Paul is the epitome of abuse of power |
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razors edge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 08:47 PM Response to Reply #47 |
202. So, refusing the great medical and retirement plans |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 08:23 AM Response to Reply #37 |
102. "Do you all not see what is taking place?" |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
53. Dennis has destroyed the chance he never had. |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
55. I'd like to hear the comments leading up to that. |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:01 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. I listened to the whole clip |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 02:13 AM Response to Reply #55 |
92. "I'm remaining skeptical about the source of this." |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
57. When we lose our constitution permanently, |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:13 AM Response to Reply #57 |
73. You want a 1929 interpretation of the Constitution? |
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ConfidentialStatus (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:48 AM Response to Reply #73 |
81. 1929? |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:52 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. 1929 |
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razors edge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 08:55 PM Response to Reply #83 |
204. Better check your history on that one.. |
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razors edge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 08:50 PM Response to Reply #73 |
203. I thought the |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
58. Huh. That throws me for a loop. |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:29 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Check Post 5 for a Paul Primer |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:16 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. He's a nightmare. Even if he is antiwar. |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #58 |
166. This presents a conundrum for some with regard to Dennis. However... |
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Voice for Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 07:14 PM Response to Reply #58 |
189. some articles to get started |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 10:58 PM Response to Reply #189 |
216. Ron Paul has some great values. But some very bad ones. |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
63. Found these interesting comments about Kucinich and Paul |
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Voice for Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 07:05 PM Response to Reply #63 |
186. LOL Roger L Simon is a narcissist, duh |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 07:13 PM Response to Reply #63 |
188. That's about as stupid |
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sellitman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
64. I'm with you. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
65. Sorry you support endless war in Iraq and Iran |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:01 AM Response to Reply #65 |
70. So a vote for anyone but Kucinich is a vote for endless war? |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:53 AM Response to Reply #70 |
74. You accidently put a question mark on the end of your statement. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 02:03 AM Response to Reply #74 |
89. stupid is as stupid does. and it doesn't do very well. |
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bluetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 01:31 AM Response to Reply #89 |
222. You'd know. |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 10:27 AM Response to Reply #74 |
122. Whatever, pal |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 05:48 PM Response to Reply #65 |
230. So you support allowing poor, unemployed, sick or elderly people to die... |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 01:49 AM Response to Original message |
82. Kucinich cut his own throat...nt |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 02:15 AM Response to Original message |
93. A fundamental lack of judgment |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 02:30 AM Response to Original message |
94. He is talking of Ron Paul not as a running mate but as a member of the |
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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 03:00 AM Response to Reply #94 |
96. Politics as we thought we knew them ended with the coup of 2000. |
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sss1977 (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #94 |
161. first rational statement in this thread. |
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razors edge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 09:01 PM Response to Reply #94 |
206. Me too, |
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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 02:55 AM Response to Original message |
95. Do you think the Plain Dealer is doing you a public service by bringing you |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 08:04 AM Response to Reply #95 |
98. This goes beyond bridging a divide |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
101. Sadly, me too. I think he suffers from Fear of Success |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
103. This has really got me upset. I view my NH primary vote as really |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 08:45 AM Response to Reply #103 |
106. Your primary vote really is important... |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 08:50 AM Response to Reply #106 |
108. Thanks, Poli, for encapsulating the impact |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 09:01 AM Response to Reply #108 |
111. Yeah, I know what ya mean... |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
107. I don't understand the "suspending support" part |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 09:10 AM Response to Reply #107 |
112. If he makes amends and repudiates the Crazy Paul idea |
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Kucinich4America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 05:47 PM Response to Reply #107 |
167. Yeah, let's call Kucinich "stupid" |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
109. Ron Paul is a racist. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
113. I'm not thrilled with it, |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 10:21 AM Response to Reply #113 |
119. ron paul is NOT a defender of the constitution |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 10:27 AM Response to Reply #113 |
123. Your last paragraph's question is so good it should have its own thread, BUT... |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 03:47 PM Response to Reply #123 |
154. No, brand allegiance is of paramount importance now. The Republicans |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 11:23 AM Response to Reply #113 |
128. Good post |
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1corona4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
117. I agree. |
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bluetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
129. Dennis said yesterday that a ticket with both himself and Paul on it would never happen while being |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 11:49 AM Response to Reply #129 |
134. that makes sense. it would have been the worst ticket since gore-lieberman. |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 11:49 AM Response to Reply #129 |
135. Get me a recording of it and I'll rethink my position |
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bluetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #135 |
140. I don't have a link to the audio, but this is the host's page on the station's |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #140 |
141. If Kooch wants us to know he won't run with Paul |
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bluetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 12:15 AM Response to Reply #141 |
218. This is a thick thread, so I'll post it again: |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
130. If gore himself was not enough to convince me that he was not worthy of my support |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
131. Yep |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
133. Yesterday, I was still saying I would |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
139. I wasn't supporting him, |
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stillrockin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
146. Moi aussi. |
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txaslftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
147. I listened to the audio and I agree with Kucinich 100%. |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
151. Really, it makes you despair of politicians. Presumably, Kucinich was worried |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
153. Sorry Dennis. |
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uberllama42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
155. I dropped him when I found out he heard voices in his head |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #155 |
159. There are just some things that a politician should have the savvy to KNOW |
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liberal hypnotist (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 05:37 PM Response to Reply #155 |
162. Are we conditioned to listen only to prepared sound bites? |
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razors edge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 10:09 PM Response to Reply #162 |
212. Aren't the majority |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
158. Did Dennis Confirm His Intention to Run with Paul? |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 10:26 PM Response to Reply #158 |
214. Check my posts |
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flashsmith (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
160. None of the Republicrats are against the war |
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trashcanistanista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
163. Sadly, |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
164. I break it down like this: Libertarians believe in no government. Government control is essential to |
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sss1977 (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
165. Best assassination protection ever... |
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Kucinich4America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #165 |
168. Well, it worked for Poppy Bush in 1988, didn't it? |
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Voltaire99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
169. Well, well. Look who's doing the Kucinich-Paul trashing... |
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leftist_not_liberal (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 06:35 PM Response to Reply #169 |
177. While your point about the source is Very Well Taken |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 07:01 PM Response to Reply #169 |
184. OMFG |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 09:24 PM Response to Reply #169 |
207. And people who rely on Social Security as an crucial part of their retirement income |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
171. i am really disappointed in dennis`s out reach to paul |
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rambler_american (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
174. Dropping my support of Dennis |
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katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
179. DK has just 'jumped the shark' for me - anyway, DK and RP |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
192. I was REALLY hoping this was a joke, a mistake, some disinformation |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
200. Certainly makes me unhappy --- but. . . What about Clinton taking Colin Powell as a VP, maybe . .. ? |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
213. maybe he was being pressed. don't jump too soon and give him a chance |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
223. OK, he has ruled it out. |
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MrsT (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 08:15 AM Response to Reply #223 |
224. He ruled it out because Ron Paul wouldn't do it, not because it was a bad idea |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 10:51 AM Response to Reply #224 |
225. Kooch has never been a graceful recipient of criticism |
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stimbox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-30-07 11:02 AM Response to Reply #224 |
226. Thanks for your concern, MrsT. Welcome to DU. |
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232. (Undeleting) -- I'm VERY disappointed... |
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