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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:53 PM
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Drudge "Exclusive": Obama meeting with Bloomberg in the Morning
Edited on Thu Nov-29-07 11:56 PM by Wolsh
EXCLUSIVE: Obama meeting with Bloomberg in the morning; Eyebrows Raised In NYC... Developing.



Well well.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:54 PM
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1. Well, is that supposed to be good or bad?
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:55 PM
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2. Depends on where you sit.
I think in the long run it will be good for Obama. People on here probably will not like it.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:57 PM
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3. Can you expand? I don't know much about Bloomberg
and have no idea of what this meeting would mean.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:58 PM
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5. He's a liberal well liked Republican in NYC
Key words are "Republican" and "well liked".

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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:59 PM
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7. Interesting. Let's see what happens.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 04:01 AM
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28. Originally a Democrat, and no longer a Republican. He switched to Indy a short while back.
But that's not the most important aspect.

He's RICH. That's the most important bit.
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 06:43 PM
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40. He is not a liberal
Liberals don't give money to right wing thugs the way Bloomberg has
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Bongo Prophet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 07:31 PM
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43. Right, not a true liberal - "Liberal Republican" just means not batshit crazy these days
Not many of them left. Neocons and nutcases have taken over that party.
Bloomberg is an opportunistic refugee from GOP, like boat-people, but with a much, much better boat. ;)

He changes labels like some change socks, but moneyed class control freak might be a good description.

However, we need to be careful, he may be "our" moneyed control freak in the general.
He can be a powerful ally, especially if Ghouliani is the GOP horse. He is not a big fan.

You can be sure the Clintons would speak with him as well, if they haven't already.
(I know Gore has had meetings with him, but over what, i don't know.)

You might have to modify your position or distate if/when Hillary meets with him.
Money = access, so it goes.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 09:44 PM
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55. The key word explaining it: he owns lots of media
He's been just as awful for the city as Rudy was - but has better PR for the obvious reasons.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:58 PM
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6. Bloomberg's a decent guy. Dem turned Repub turned Indie. He's also
friends with Al Gore and (ack) Joe Lieberman.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:35 AM
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17. He also dislikes guiliani. There is no way he is running for VP or on a ticket
with Obama. Obama probably looking for financial support


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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 06:44 PM
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41. He also gives millions to right wing repukes
Real decent guy
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:00 AM
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9. I got no real problem with Bloomberg, but I hate how the media will play it
Edited on Fri Nov-30-07 12:01 AM by Kurt_and_Hunter
I don't like third party rumors, but the media loves inventing them out of nothing.


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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:57 PM
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4. Why not? Bloomberg has meetings with almost every politician out there.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:59 PM
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8. Drudge is trying to stir some shit that's not there. nt
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:00 AM
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10. I don't think much bad can come of this nt
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NOVA_Dem Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:01 AM
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11. Isn't he supposed to be at the Apollo Theater on Fri?
Why wouldn't he meet w/ the mayor while he was in NYC?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:04 AM
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12. Oh...well, that takes all the fun out of it. I was hoping he was offering
to back Obama financially or something!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:05 AM
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13. Maybe he'll give Obama a giant pile of money.
Edited on Fri Nov-30-07 12:12 AM by AtomicKitten
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:05 AM
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14. He was there today, I believe.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:13 AM
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15. Prolly just a friendly visit...
but who knows...
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:15 AM
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16. Whatever help he can give us is appreciated.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:35 AM
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18. Interesting. Probably nothing, though.
However, an endorsement would be big for Obama.
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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:36 AM
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19. Maybe Bloomberg wants to be his running mate?
Just a little unfounded, irresponsible speculation. :)

Bloomie has been dropping hints about running for national office, however. Can't say I am crazy about the idea.
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:38 AM
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20. Obama's meeting with a Republican?
Does that mean there will be 2000 Obama bashing threads on this board by the time I wake up tomorrow morning?
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:49 AM
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23. isn't he an independent now? nm
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:57 AM
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25. Bloomberg seems to change parties like most of us change socks
Edited on Fri Nov-30-07 12:57 AM by Kucinich4America
Maybe I should have used the :sarcasm: tag before? I thought everyone would get it after the last 48 hour blitzkrieg of anti-Kucinich threads, most of them started by supporters of the most right wing candidate in this race (I won't mention her name)
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 06:44 PM
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42. And Obama changes positions about that often
They'd make quite a team
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 04:04 AM
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29. No. With an independent. Who started out as a Dem, switched to GOP so he didn't have to
slog through a primary, and then, disgusted with them, went Indy.
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 04:29 AM
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32. I have no use for politicians who don't know what side they're on.
That's why I can't stand Hillary. Bloomberg keeps jumping parties for political gain.

Funny how someone like Cindy Sheehan or Ralph Nader are vilified around here for being third party candidates, while Bloomberg and Lieberman are defended. Bloomberg became a Republican. Joe acts like one. At least Cindy still resembles a Democrat. And while I don't agree with Ralph's approach to confronting the corporatist downfall of this party (i.e. running in an election he can't win) he's certainly not wrong in much of what he has said on the subject.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 05:11 AM
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34. Hillary hasn't been a Republican since she was a kid. She doesn't switch parties.
She may not be left enough to suit YOU, but most Democrats aren't.

Bloomberg jumped to R just to avoid the NYC mayoral primary.

He doesn't care about party affiliation, but he doesn't have to--he's RICH.
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 05:16 AM
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35. Hillary was a Goldwater Girl back then
The right wing positions she and the rest of the DLC hold now would scare the Hell out of old Barry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRq-gelZFgg
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 05:17 AM
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36. Whatever. nt
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 07:36 PM
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44. I wonder if you know what that means
What do you mean by a "Goldwater Girl"?
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 10:30 PM
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56. She supported a candidate who frightened so many people at the time
That they literally believed the world would end in a nuclear holocaust if he were elected...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD3CvxmLBf0

40 years later, Goldwater looks like a flaming liberal. Not compared to Republicans, but to the DLC.

Anyone who calls him or herself a Democrat should be profoundly alarmed by that fact.
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 11:15 PM
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58. Hold me mommy!
I's scared!!
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obamian Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:39 AM
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21. He's done some excellent work on climate change
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:48 AM
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22. Obama's going nowhere except back to Illinois. Hillary'll win.
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:59 AM
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26. Maybe you should ask if Hillary's going back to Illinois?
Seriously... when her presidential bid fails, and she no longer has a reason to pretend to live in New York, where's she moving next?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 04:07 AM
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30. Pretend to live in NY?? Uh...she's the junior SENATOR from that state.
She's only two years into her second six year term.

What a clueless remark that was...
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 04:23 AM
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31. A state which she never lived in before 2000
You think I fell off a goddamned turnip truck or something?

She could have been a Senator from Arkansas. Or even moved back to Illinois. At least she had a legitimate claim to that state.

Of course she's not the only politician to play this game. Other Republicans like Mitt Romney and Alan Keyes have done the same thing. :)
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 05:08 AM
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33. Yeah, whaddan asshole--she shoulda left her husband in 92 and moved up there!
Yeahhhh, that's the ticket!!!!

Way to show us whatcha know, there, pal. See, you DID just fall off that turnip truck, and you PROVED it with that remark.

There weren't any openings in AR or IL. And why should she be forced to go back to a place where she lived only because of her husband's job, or because that's where her parents raised her before she took off for college in MA and grad school in CT?

Who are you to dictate where people are allowed to live in a mobile American society? The Clintons have a right to live anywhere they choose. They don't have to go 'back' anywhere to make you happy.

In NY, they don't have a problem with talented people moving in and competing to represent them. They never have--it's a big state, and a huge percentage of their NYC population originally came FROM somewhere else. See, they don't have that 'prejudice' against the newcomer.

Here's one of those talented newcomers from the past, who moved to NY specifically to run for public office: Robert F. Kennedy, the late Senator from New York and brother of the late President....who lived, most days, while representing his state, at Hickory Hill--which WASN'T in NY (and is currently for sale: http://www.wfp.com/propertySearch/prop.asp?mlsid=FX5082121 ).

Guess who's eying the Clinton Senate seat, if she makes it to the WH? RFK's son. He's got a few long term roots in NY, unlike his dad. He got involved in Riverkeepers there while doing his probation for heroin possession back in the eighties.

Mayor Mike Bloomberg, former Democrat, former Republican, and current Independent is also a carpetbagger--he's from Medford, Massachusetts.

It's not uncommon. The NY voters certainly don't share your resentment of or hostility towards the talented newcomer, fortunately.
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 05:26 AM
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37. How do you represent a state you know nothing about??
Of course when you represent corporations and not people, I guess that's irrelevant.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 06:32 PM
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38. You travel the state, you listen to people, like she did, and you study and learn.
How did RFK manage it?

You're in "lockstep" mode. Enjoy your concrete attitude there...
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 07:38 PM
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45. You should ask Hillary
She did it, which is why she won re-election. She even won in districts that voted for bush*

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obamian Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:52 AM
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24. AP/ Marc Ambinder
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 01:55 AM
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27. Not important. Bloomberg liken to Joe Liberman. Joe did not
know if he wanted to be a Democrat after he got his butt defeated in democratic primary in Conn.. so Joe changed to Independent and got elected by republicans that did not even support the republican for senate candidate.
Bloomberg once was a democrat. He changed to being a republican. Then changed to be an independent....

HRC defeats Obama in New York...HRC defeats Bloomberg if he ran as independent. So if you put obama and bloomberg together, you have...
drum roll please......HRC defeating Obama in New York.

Ben David
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 06:39 PM
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39. Bloomberg seems to be an okay guy. they probably met like most pols meet and chat.
I don't see the big deal. politicians of both sides meet and have coffee sometimes.
it's not all bashing each other around or calling everyone on the other side the enemy.
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 07:39 PM
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46. Bloomberg helps fund the rightwing, and you think he is OK
No surprise here
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 07:45 PM
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47. And Rupert Murdoch helped fund Hillary, and you think THAT'S ok?
Or did you complain?
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 07:47 PM
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48. Obama PAYS the rightwing
Carlyle consultant.

Nothing wrong with TAKING money from the right wing. There's something terrible wrong with GIVING money to the rightwing, the way Obama does.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 08:06 PM
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49. HAHAHAHA!
Edited on Fri Nov-30-07 08:10 PM by jenmito
Isn't all that spinning making you dizzy? You just said, "Bloomberg helps fund the rightwing, and you think he is OK" but now there's nothing wrong with being associated with someone like that? Or is it just that you will defend your girl at all costs?
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 08:50 PM
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50. Obama PAYS the rightwing, and it OK with you when Obama does it
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 09:11 PM
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51. Hillary takes money (in return for...who knows) and that's ok with you?
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 09:22 PM
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52. Yes, I am always in favor of dems taking repuke money
You can search all you want, you will not find a post of mine criticizing a dem for taking money from a repuke.

But you are being hypocritical by not objecting to Obama's CONTRIBUTING money to the right wing
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 09:42 PM
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53. Bloomberg "liberally" invited the RNC to have convention in NYC, arrested protesters
Edited on Fri Nov-30-07 09:42 PM by robbedvoter
Said asthma is a disease of the poor - because of their poor hygiene - there are more "liberal" deeds and quotes for ya. This New Yorker is disgusted at outsiders praising the disaster mayor (I remember the times DU celebrated Rudy as well).
I have no stake in Obama's campaign - in fact I like him better than many others - I wish him endorsements from better people.
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 09:44 PM
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54. When the EPA lies about Ground Zero, Bloomberg said "bush* wouldn't lie"
What a liberal
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 10:44 PM
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57. Bush - Clinton - Bush - Clinton - Bush --> screw that enough is enufff!!!
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