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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:17 PM
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Hostages released!
They just said two were released. I think the only person left there is the crazy guy! Whew!
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:19 PM
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1. They'll find he's got highway flares strapped to his chest
but the gun is real enough. I sincerely hope some good comes of this, that he tells us which radio/TV ranter inspired him to do this.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:20 PM
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3. That's what I'm hoping, too
If it was one of the right wing hate mongers, maybe they will be forced to tone down their rhetoric.
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liskddksil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:20 PM
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4. they're saying on the webstream
He has a history of mental illness and he told his son to watch the news this morning. Freaky stuff.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:20 PM
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2. They are saying he is known locally
and has a history of mental illness.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:21 PM
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5. Yeah. They just reported he told someone to watch the news today.
I don't remember who it was he told. Maybe his son?
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:22 PM
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6. As I suspected.
I hope he gets the care he needs instead of just a jail cell. Hillary has an opportunity here to make a very important statement by how she handles the situation.
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:26 PM
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8. it's not her decision
it's local law enforcement's.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:37 PM
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16. I didn't say it was.
What statement Hillary makes publicly about the situation and the man will leave a lasting impression, though.

She can say something about advocacy and greater care for the mentally ill instead of incarceration. She can come out with a strong statement for health care and decent living conditions being a way to avert these types of desperate situations.

Sorry my used of the word "handle" was unclear. I know she has nothing to do with how the immediate event is managed.

However, Hillary certainly can have an influence on the aftermath by how she handles this situation in her own realm and what statements she makes, both publicly and privately.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:40 PM
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17. and if she does make such a statement ....
"Oh look at her, she's taking advantage of the situation".

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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:43 PM
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18. Some may say that.
Others may applaud her.

Should what some people say stop her from doing the right thing or from being an advocate for principles she claims to believe in?

I, for one, will be watching closely.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:57 PM
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20. That is the LAST thing she should do
Could you imagine? I support Hillary 100% but using a hostage situation as a political platform would be terrible.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 04:03 PM
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21. Okay.
I disagree with you, but that's fine.

Making a progressive humanitarian statement is not the same thing as "using" a situation as a "political platform." It all depends on exactly what's said and how.

I think she'll be making a mistake if she says nothing, but that's just me. :shrug:
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 04:42 PM
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22. I agree, she should say SOMETHING but
She should not try to tie the hostage situation into her political platform. That would be a kiss of death.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 05:20 PM
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24. That'll be tricky.
Especially since the hostage situation is the reason for having to make a statement at all.

At any rate, it'll be interesting to see what she says and how she says it. :)
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:33 PM
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12. Yeah that's it
:eyes:
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:24 PM
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7. Besides being mentally ill
what's his problem? Why'd he do it? What statement is he trying to make?
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HERVEPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:30 PM
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10. Not necessarily trying to make a statement if he's mentally ill.
You may be looking for logic where none exists
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:30 PM
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11. He wanted to speak with her.
:shrug:
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:36 PM
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15. It could merely be a bid for attention.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:30 PM
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9. What a relief
:cry:
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:34 PM
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13. That's good news! - n/t
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:35 PM
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14. Thank goodness, props to those in charge of the situation...n/t
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ConfidentialStatus Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:48 PM
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19. That's good news if true
The TV feed is being delayed, not a "live" feed. Too many people now with TIVO and VCR's capable of recording this, guess "they" learned from 9-11.
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 05:02 PM
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23. MSNBC - Still One Hostage Inside
Sorry...I don't think all of the hostages have been released. One still remains.

-Paige
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