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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 01:23 PM Original message |
Why is it OKAY for Obama to say that there are "good, moral people" who are still homophobes |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
1. It's not ok for him to say it, |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. I have heard almost no criticism at all from Obama supporters |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Then you're not paying attention. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. I'm not talking about the McClurkin mess |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #14 |
32. When i say 'McClurkin mess' I'm talking about everything. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. Can you address my point about the UCC church? |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #40 |
81. I don't care what he thinks personally. |
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FreeState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 08:08 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. link? |
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FreeState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #84 |
101. Kick for link |
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FreeState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 08:01 PM Response to Reply #81 |
114. One last kick for a link n/t |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #32 |
46. No, it doesn't make him a homophobe |
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gaspee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #32 |
47. Does not make him a homophobe? |
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gaspee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #6 |
48. I wonder what would happen |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #48 |
80. I'm giving you a pass for your stupidity. |
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gaspee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 09:25 PM Response to Reply #80 |
93. Stupid, huh? |
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erebusman (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #93 |
105. good for you gaspee |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
15. good moral trusting people |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 05:11 PM Response to Reply #15 |
73. But that's not what he said. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 04:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
62. I saw Rod Serling give a speech once and he said if a man could |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
2. Obama is not the only one who says this so I'm not sure why you single him out... |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Who else has said that? |
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maximusveritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
31. In 2004, Edwards said America wasn't ready for civil unions |
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Benhurst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #31 |
43. That's hardly the same. |
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fightindonkey (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:33 AM Response to Reply #31 |
121. That's NOT The Same Thing. What If He Said Racists Are Moral Upstanding People? |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 01:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Can you tell us who else has said |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. I'm talking about America being too homophobic to have gay marriage. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. But no other candidate has said that |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. it doesn't matter if other candidates have said those exact words; |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. Certainly |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. hmmm, well, could it be because HE'S RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT? |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Exactly why he should know better! n/t |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #16 |
29. its also just a thought that almost every candidate doesn't believe in gay marriage either. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #29 |
44. But Clinton and Edward's churches oppose gay marriage |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. I don't think their churches not endorsing it is any reason they are overlooked |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. No one is saying he is alone on gay marriage |
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fightindonkey (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:40 AM Response to Reply #44 |
127. But He Doesn't. Who The F Cares What His Church Thinks? It's Not A Church Issue |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
3. dude politicians suck-this guy is no different-he wants to get elected-pretty simple |
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CyberPieHole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
5. Because Obama is pandering to homophobes...he has to say that... |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 01:32 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. the great divider - boomer glbts get the double knife in the back & old ted kennedy, well nt |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #5 |
52. How can you excuse Hillary's continued support of DOMA then? |
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CyberPieHole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 09:07 PM Response to Reply #52 |
115. Thanks for the strawman, Hippo... |
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fightindonkey (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:34 AM Response to Reply #52 |
122. Because It Stopped The Right From Writing Gays Out Of The Constitution |
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NYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
8. It is not okay. |
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cloudythescribbler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
12. This is a ridiculous "false light" criticism |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Sounds to me like you agree with the OP. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. um, the pandering to homophobes was very real, and completely shameful |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 07:13 PM Response to Reply #12 |
79. ummmm... |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
18. Good Question n/t |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
20. I disagree. nt. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. lol |
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Infinite Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
21. Because good and moral people are wrong sometimes. Ignorance can pervade even the informed. |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. I think it is simpler. They are not moral. Or good. nt. |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Sorry no, |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Aren't human rights a pretty basic Democratic issue? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. pretty basic-----yet, not so in bush amerika |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. This is very true |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. So a person can be "good, moral and decent" |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #37 |
49. ella? |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #21 |
33. I've never seen bigotry that was just an occasional mistake |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
34. Do you have the quote ANYWHERE where Obama says "good moral people" can be homophobes? |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Sure, here you go |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. yeah..but did he actually say they are good, decent and moral? nt. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. He only wrote it. :) |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. I don't care if Obama "believes" that he supports the GLBT community on every issue |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
36. Yes and no |
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antiimperialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
50. I agree with Obama |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. The bible supported the notion of slavery |
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Capn Sunshine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. you're wrong, as usual |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 05:09 PM Original message |
slaves obey your masters |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 08:15 PM Response to Reply #61 |
85. First of all |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 09:51 PM Response to Reply #61 |
94. I respect straight people |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
51. Why is it okay for Hillary to continue to support DOMA? |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. This has nothing to do with Hillary |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Because aside from Kucinich none of them are perfect on gay rights |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Again I ask, what does Hillary's position on DOMA have to do with the OP? nt |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 03:56 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. The OP posts at least one anti-Obama thread a day |
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dogishboy (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. And again - What does that have to do with the OP? |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. I support the OP completely. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 08:06 PM Response to Reply #58 |
82. Do you have a problem with gays and lesbians |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 06:35 AM Response to Reply #82 |
99. Trying to explain himself would be spun even further by the MSM |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 09:47 AM Response to Reply #99 |
100. I'm glad your confident |
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fightindonkey (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:36 AM Response to Reply #100 |
124. DOMA Saved Gays And Lesbians, That's Why! |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 06:51 PM Response to Reply #51 |
78. It's not. nt |
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ncabot22 (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
63. I think Obama has a point |
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midlife_mo_Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 04:29 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Very lovely post |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. The man Obama hired to MC his concert said gays want to kill children. |
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midlife_mo_Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. Didn't say it was. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Oh I realize. |
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ncabot22 (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Thanks. |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Being a bigot and believing that GLBT Americans are child killers |
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ncabot22 (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 04:56 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. But what about Lincoln and Jefferson |
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dogishboy (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 05:11 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. So Obama freed the slaves? |
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ncabot22 (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. I did not say Obama freed the slaves |
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dogishboy (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Very, very weak |
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dogishboy (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 08:06 PM Response to Reply #75 |
83. And I read your other link, which was an even stinkier load of bullshit |
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ncabot22 (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 08:48 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. Direct from Lincoln |
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dogishboy (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 09:11 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. Typical racist anti-Lincoln propoganda |
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ncabot22 (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 09:10 PM Response to Reply #83 |
90. The site I linked to is for Native Americans |
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dogishboy (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 09:15 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. I don't blame you for fleeing the scene |
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DemKR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 08:37 PM Response to Reply #72 |
87. haha |
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fightindonkey (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:41 AM Response to Reply #72 |
128. LMAO! |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #63 |
108. Excellent post. What a lot of people fail to see is that good, moral people are |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
69. calling all obama apologist... |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
76. Here is a text book example of some of these moral people |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 04:51 PM Response to Reply #76 |
112. Awesome post. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
77. It's hard to justify "moral" when talking about people who would |
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DemKR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
86. K&R 08! |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
89. Answer: I think you got this all wrong |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 10:28 PM Response to Reply #89 |
95. So, being black is genetic. What is being gay, then? A choice? |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 10:54 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. I am not the cause of this |
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fightindonkey (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:42 AM Response to Reply #96 |
129. No, You're Pointing Out The Stupid. Show Me The Genetics For Heterosexuality |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #129 |
138. No, donkey, THAT is stupid |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #95 |
109. You've touched on an essential fallacy in the comparison of |
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Czolgosz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 01:41 AM Response to Original message |
97. recommended |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:19 AM Response to Original message |
98. fwiw . . . I honestly believe that the U.S. is ready for a black president . . . but . . . |
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DangerDave921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #98 |
103. Sadly I agree. eom |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #98 |
104. Obama's name could be John Smith and it still wouldn't excuse his "good moral people" statement /nt |
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DangerDave921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
102. Ready |
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FreeState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #102 |
107. And that makes bigotry okay how? n/t |
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DangerDave921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:26 AM Response to Reply #107 |
116. WTF? |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
106. It's NOT okay |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
110. It's not homophobic to say America wouldn't elect a gay president. I don't get it. |
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FreeState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 04:29 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. If the sole reason he isnt elected is because of skin color |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:04 PM Response to Reply #111 |
113. Agreed. /nt |
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fightindonkey (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:43 AM Response to Reply #113 |
130. If We Knocked Off The South Like They Wanted, This Wouldn't Be Such An Issue |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
117. There *are* good people who are homophobic. One vice does not a bad person make. |
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fightindonkey (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:39 AM Response to Reply #117 |
126. No, There Are Not Good People Who Are Homophobic.They Are Human Rights Deniers. Nazis Were Good Then |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #126 |
134. How many good people would you say there are in the world? |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #134 |
135. That would be 3. ;) |
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Czolgosz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
118. kick |
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fightindonkey (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
119. I've Been Screaming About This For Weeks. Obama Needs To Get The Fuck Off The Stage! |
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fightindonkey (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:32 AM Response to Reply #119 |
120. He Also VOTED TO FUND THE WAR!!!!! |
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Onlooker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
123. It's okay because ... |
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fightindonkey (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:38 AM Response to Reply #123 |
125. What?! Are You Seriously This Insane? |
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Onlooker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:52 AM Response to Reply #125 |
131. he is not homophobic |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
132. I am able |
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dbackjon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
133. Great post, as usual |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
136. Because he's a bigot |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #136 |
137. And that gets you what? |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
139. kick |
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