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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 12:52 PM
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Ron Paul raises $19.5 million (likely more than any other GOP'er)
Edited on Tue Jan-01-08 12:56 PM by antiimperialist
Source: New York Times

For most of the candidates, the fourth quarter was more about stumping than fund-raising. Not so for Representative Ron Paul of Texas, who has achieved that Howard Dean-esque feat of turning fervent netroots support into cold, hard cash. The libertarian-leaning Republican raked in $19.5 million over the last three months, which is likely to be more than any other G.O.P. candidate’s haul. (As the campaign points out in its release this morning, the figure is over $9 million more than any Republican raised in the third quarter.)

Read more: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/01/paul-raises-195-million/



What a waste.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 12:57 PM
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1. There are a lot of racists with disposable income

TO VOTE FOR RON PAUL!
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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 01:44 PM
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7. That's correct
Racists that are not even in disguise.

Libertarians basically are bunch of upper or upper middle class that just want to keep the "loots" out of IRS' hand.

They hate government.


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Neoma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 02:53 PM
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12. He said that he didn't want the KKK supporting him.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 03:40 PM
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14. And you believe him?
Ron Paul is smart enough to know that the KKK isn't well liked by the rest of America. If he really was interested in disassociating himself with them he would return their contributions.
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Neoma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 03:53 PM
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15. I don't know about that.
If I the KKK gave you a lot of money, would you honestly give money back to the KKK? That'd to me, be worse.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 03:59 PM
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17. I would probably donate it to the NAACP or a similar group
But I don't campaign on xenophobia so the KKK would never give me money in the first place.
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Neoma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 04:04 PM
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18. I'd give it to charity myself.
And that's just silly.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 04:05 PM
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19. That's fine, but Ron Paul isn't giving it to charity he's using it to campaign
He is trying to have it both ways.
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Neoma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 04:12 PM
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20. The campaign in itself is asking for charity.
Isn't that how it works? I mean, isn't that why it's called donations? Sure it's interesting to see who supports who, but that's just about it. Unless something illegal comes about.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 04:41 PM
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21. Judging candidates by who financially backs them is perfectly legitimate
Politicians often claim that they don't represent the interests of their donors and often they are flat out lying. That is why candidates do sometimes donate to charity or give back contributions from less than ethical donors.

If Ron Paul wants to make it clear that he doesn't represent the interests of the KKK, he should refuse to use their money. He can't have it both ways.
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Neoma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 04:46 PM
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22. Then be punctual and mail him about it.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 03:54 PM
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16. haha, like he'll come out and say "Hey, racists, VOTE FOR ME!"
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:47 PM
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26. How very naive of you. nt.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 01:07 PM
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2. This is a good thing for us.
The stronger Paul's run is, the more the 'libertarian' Republican voter is going to have hard time voting for the theocratic fascist they actually nominate.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 01:09 PM
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3. John Edwards Is the Only Competitor for Ron Paul
The difference between lightning, and the lightning bug (Thank you, Mark Twain).



"The difference between the almost right word & the right word is really a large matter--it's the difference between the lightning bug and the lightning."
- Letter to George Bainton, 10/15/1888
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 01:10 PM
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4. Not sure but I think Ron Paul has more money than the RNC.
I read somewhere (and I will look for it) that the RNC did not have enough money to put down for their convention a few weeks back. Heads must be exploding..lol.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 01:38 PM
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5. whow.
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Sonexdd Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 01:42 PM
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6. AstroTurf campaing.
We must also take a good hard look at this sudden upsurge in support for Ron Paul. Where is it coming from? Just one example should cause everyone who is thinking about jumping on this bandwagon to cringe in horror. The Texas Huffines Family. Plausible deniability can't even enter into this one, as Paul has held fund raisers at the Huffines palatial estate. But in order to understand this one issue, we have to look at who the Huffines family is. They like to present themselves publicly as 'lil ole Texas car dealers', when nothing could be further from the truth. To date, they have contributed in a skirt the election laws type of way, almost 1 million dollars to the Paul campaign. The Huffines family is extremely wealthy, and extremely powerful in Texas, owning not just a car dealership, but dealerships all over Texas, as well as real estate holdings all over the state. They have been politically connected for decades. But the scariest part is that they have always put their muscle behind the most extreme of candidates, such as Jon Cornyn, and George Bush. How did the Huffines donate all of this money and get away with it? Simple. They had every single member of the family, from the patriarch, to the unemployed children, from their employees, to their friends and neighbors, all donate the maximum allowable $2,300 each. The wives even donated, although they list themselves as unemployed.

http://thebatscave.blogspot.com/2007/11/comparing-kucinich-and-ron-paul.html
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 01:44 PM
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8. We know where the surge is coming from-- the Angry White Male voter
We know where the surge is coming from-- the Angry White Male voter who feels disenfranchied and afraid because white people no longer hold every damn card in the deck.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:59 PM
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27. But if an individual gives $1,000 or $100 to a D, the RW
Edited on Tue Jan-01-08 06:59 PM by rasputin1952
is all over it like screechmonkeys at a poop fight.

It never ceases to amaze me that the RW always screams about anyone on the Left making a buck, but they toss cash all over the most vile bastards in the country w/nothing ever said about it.

RP has figured out the best way to make money w/o working for it...just play the ideology card for the RW deep-pockets. How much does anyone want to bet...he'll pocket $15 mil...knowing he'll never get the nomination.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 01:50 PM
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9. I wish he would run third party, or at least do good in IA and NH
I am sure that the GOP would hate to see their precious neo-cons dragged through the mud.:)
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 02:01 PM
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10. If he doesn't win the nomination, I expect him to go third party.
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silverback Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 09:47 PM
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31. I doubt it.
I know, he's been very careful not to rule out a third party run, even going as far as taking some preliminary steps to make sure he could get 50 state ballot access...

But I think when he says "I have no plans to do that" he means it.

You have to understand the Republican race to see what's really going on, there's basically a six-way tie going into Iowa and no candidate who appeals to all the groups that make up the GOP. So there's a high likelihood of a brokered convention in which Paul will have a substantial number of delegates, and as long as he has his core of die-hard support and a credible threat of a third party run he'll also have the Republican hope of winning the election in his pocket...

If he doesn't win the nom. he's got a good chance of being VP so long as people believe he'd go 3rd party otherwise.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 02:18 PM
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11. I don't think support for Paul is as simple as some here are saying, or from as small a demographic
I was really horrified the other week to have a good friend tell me he would be voting in the Republican primary so he could vote for Paul (in California). He said that if he didn't vote for Paul, he'd vote in the Democratic primary for Kucinich. Paul gets a lot of supporters who wouldn't otherwise vote republican. They aren't all racists and misogynists. Kucinich's point, that went largely unnoticed in his discussing Paul was that we ought to have a real political debate in this country where people can see that there are very real distinctions between different schools of political though. Despite my hatred for the corporate Democrats, I'd still vote for them over Paul, but don't think that others would feel the same way. As anti-war as I am, I'd also take a little war if it meant keeping public schools, social security, legal abortion, medicare, etc. Don't think that others feel the same. I think this is something we should welcome, because it sparks real political debate, but should also fear, because Ron Paul stands for a lot of things I assume almost everyone here would fight against. I wish people would get this "electability" meme out of their minds, and push for someone in our party who also wouldn't play politics as usual. Too bad the Democrats with the money don't give it to Kucinich - but how could they? He really would raise their taxes and work for an egalitarian society, which is the last thing a lot of powerful Dems want.
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Neoma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 04:55 PM
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23. Very true.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:40 PM
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24. Paul gets some support from the left that just wants a viable anti-establishment candidate
But the right wing libertarians and xenophobes are the core of his support.
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:46 PM
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25. Ron Paul is so anti-liberal if he was in power
he would lock us all up. He is the epitomy of a Nazi candidate... you think Bush is bad.... Hah...
Ron Paul is and ass clown and needs to shut up and go away... I hate his politics with a passion it is anti-Freedom, anti-Democracy and anti-human.:spank:
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 03:37 PM
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13. RP is a Libertarian, not a GOP'r?
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 07:02 PM
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28. Yes. But he's running on the GOP ticket, Libertarians being sort of like an arm of the GOP. nt
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 07:04 PM
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29. For those interested.. ONE HOUR of Ron Paul and Glenn Beck... comedic relief
if nothing else on CNN Headline news now.
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Vennn Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 08:13 PM
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30. FOX
FOX wants to keep him out of the debate. I cannot explain my anger right now.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 10:18 PM
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32. Ron Paul has some serious backing here in NC
The best thing for the Dems is if he runs as an IND.
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