One more look at Ohio

Just so we don't forget in all the hullaballoo...Ohio was rigged just as it's predecessor Florida was.
If the country was divided after the fiasco in Florida and Ohio...it is the fault of the PEOPLE. Not the Democratic candidates.After all the dust settled, Gore SHOULD have been our President in 2000 and Kerry should have been our President in 2004.
The question remains...(and I don't want to hear rhetoric from candidates that THEY will fight the corruption AFTER the election is stolen...because as we can see, it doesn't do any good)...is HOW it will be attempted THIS time?
These criminals have NOT amassed all of this power just to hand it over to someone else, so, we have to be diligent.
ANYTHING could happen to circumvent the election process.

http://usliberals.about.com/od/electionreform/a/votingrights1_2.htm
Until six weeks before the 2004 election, "jurisdiction" was defined in Ohio as county, as it is in most states. In mid-September 2004, Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell, also state co-chair of the Republican Bush/Cheney campaign, changed the Ohio definition of "jurisdiction" to mean ward/precinct, not county. Ohio's Republican Governor Bob Taft believed that this change could affect over 100,000 votes.

Suit was filed to prevent this disenfranchisement of voters, and two separate federal court rulings were made against Blackwell. "Secretary Blackwell abided by neither judgment and instead proceeded with directives that would disenfranchise Ohio voters," recounts the Congressional Report.

Chairman Deforest Soares of the federal Election Assistance Committee believes that Blackwell was the only US secretary of state who misread the intent of its rules, established by HAVA. "The purpose of provisional ballots is not to turn anyone away from thpolls...We want as many votes to count as possible."

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The Ohio Republican Party sent registered letters to 35,000 newly registered voters in minority and urban areas, and then sought to challenge voter eligibility for letters never signed for or delivered. Of course, voters may not be home, may be homeless, may be serving in the armed forces or may be uninterested in or intimidated by an official-looking letter from the Republican Party.
In Sanduskey County, Republicans arranged for the county sheriff to visit the residences of 67 of these new registrants.

"the Stolen Election"

In terms of their official position.

In terms of an unofficial stand, Hillary had Carville whispering into Kerry's ear that there were only 150,000 ballots that remained uncounted. In an election where the Kerry needed to beat 138,000 ballots, that wasn't enough. Some voting activists now believe that there were 400,000 ballots remaining uncounted. At the time, Carville probably knew that there were at least 250,000 ballots to be counted.

Kerry conceded less than twenty four hours after the election. Ultimately this was HIS decision. But it certtainly doesn't offer me much in the way of admiring Hill to find out not only this information about Carville, but also about her phone call to Edwards to scold Edwards for "grandstanding" in his speeches about the need to see that every vote is counted.

What is very scary about our election process is the fact that despite two contested elections, there are no new Federal mechanisms to help ensure that the voting occurs on paper ballots. Some states now require them (ie New Mexico) But for many states, the same disturbing equipment will be used.

And there are also no new safeguards regarding penalty for cheating. With the exceptuion of New Hampshire, we have not seen any bodies thrown into jail.

What I am saying is this: The punishment for stealing an election remains the privilege of the plushest of seats in the Oval office.

Conveniently? I don't know. Maybe some of "our" candidates are aware that they have benefited from rigged elections, therefore assuring a wall of silence on the subject.
Ironically, New Mexico had the highest undervote in the country in 2004. Too bad Richardson wouldn't let THAT be investigated thoroughly to shine a HUGE spotlight on the problem. Had he done that, we might be further along in our quest for verified voting.
THAT one act makes an otherwise electable Democrat someone I can never forgive.

As I have said I have political scientist relative and he has told me that alot of times its BOTH parties engaging in election fraud. I even questioned him about Ohio and being from there originally made me suspicious of the numbers I saw come out of there in 04. However he believes that whatever happened in Ohio was not NEARLY as serious as Florida in 2000. Do I believe the Republicans used unethical tactics to win Ohio, yes. Do I think they engaged in outright fraud in Ohio? I'm inclined not to think so. Which is gist of the discussion I had with my uncle.

http://tinyurl.com/2lw3le

We are all on the same team and should be aware of the discussion that are relevant, and just out of ear shot.

:-)

I will go to my grave believing Ohio was totally rigged in 2004.

Blackwell is indeed a very corrupt person and I don't know one person in Ohio who wasn't very happy to see him go

I'll print it out and frame it!

I do see where several of the Cuyahoga County Election Officials had to serve some months in prison.

Good for Jennifer Brunner, the new Ohio SOS.

on Hardball.
That's been about a month ago.

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