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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:19 PM Original message |
Why women undermine Hillary Clinton |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
1. OMG! hill's sTalking Head on MSNBC |
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goddess40 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. This women doesn't care for Hillary because she's pro-war |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. er, it only came up once. |
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goddess40 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. What about all the spending she's approved |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Who do you support At least it's not Obama because I noted the Kyl Lieberman point. |
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goddess40 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
42. Kucinich then Edwards |
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goddess40 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:45 AM Response to Reply #19 |
57. Kucinich then Edwards |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #11 |
25. no, not really all that absurd, actually. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:43 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. there were no multiple votes IWR unless you count the amendments |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. right, edwards voted the same |
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goddess40 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 06:32 PM Response to Reply #32 |
43. I believe Edwards now admits he was wrong nt |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 06:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. A woman candidate HAS to appear strong on defense. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. I don't care. I am anti-war so any candidate that pulls that crap |
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goddess40 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. Then America is ready for a woman president |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. That, and NAFTA....and a few other things like: |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:30 PM Original message |
Thanks for the |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:00 AM Response to Reply #12 |
60. but the average woman doesn't look at those graphs. they just know they "dont like her". |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #60 |
68. Holy shit. |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #68 |
75. if you think this board is the average voter, i don't know what to say. |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. I have NO allusions about that. |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 10:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
56. You see-- you just repeat lies as if fact. Clinton is not pro war |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
3. Women have always undermined other women, much like blacks undermine.... |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #3 |
69. 2nd. and ditto. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
4. I find it rather insulting that disagreement with Clinton's views |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:30 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. That's the implication of theories like this and it IS INSULTING (n/t) |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
24. I wish I could rec that. n/t. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 06:00 PM Response to Reply #4 |
33. exactly why I loathe the gender card used a cattle prod to support Hillary |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 06:05 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Funny, I thought it was saying exactly the opposite. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. I was agreeing with Warpy |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
51. But it's more emotional than mere disagreement -- it's often downright irrational. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 10:22 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. so..you're calling women who don't support Clinton irrational? |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #55 |
76. Oh, that's a reach. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. your first false assumption is that anyone who opposes clinton is irrational |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Wrong. |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #51 |
71. Totally. there's often a little bit extra in there for her. Not by all, but often. |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
52. Kicking for your response. Wish I could recommend it too, Warpy. nt |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #4 |
63. That whole "women must support other women" is actually a RW talking point |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:07 PM Response to Reply #63 |
78. I've pretty much tuned her supporters out. However |
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Madam Mossfern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
5. Or...How about |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
6. Or perhaps we dont like her politics? |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. And, like John Edwards she voted for the war. nm |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
8. so now, WOMEN are misogynist if they don't support Hillary? |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:30 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. Poor women, they're just too dumb to know how to vote |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
9. Talk about a broad brush! I don't have a hard time believing Hillary could BE |
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Rainbowreflect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
10. I guess I must be weird, but I don't really care if a candidate is |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
13. Hillary is a lady's lady. That's why almost all women admire her, except on DU of course |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #13 |
46. pal, you've been hanging out downtown at the railway station haven't you! |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
14. hillary's a warmonger so she can |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:34 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. Yeah right. Nice try. You're just extremely jealous of her. HIllary is the real peace candidate. nt |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Right on cue...the hillary surrogate |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:37 PM Original message |
"the real peace candidate"? no, that would be kucinich. |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
28. True, I can't deny that. But Hillary is the only peace candidate who pledge to end the war next Jan |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. "goddess of peace"? you are delusional, IMHO |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #21 |
48. So enabling war makes you a peace candidate? Wow, who knew?! |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 08:57 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. LOL! |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
17. Why aren't some men voting for Edwards? |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #17 |
34. Bwah! Good one. Shows how silly such "reasoning" is. |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
20. Actually, it's freudian - a "why did you hate your mother" thing. |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
23. Oh, yeah. Nothing to do with her crap politics... |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
26. Well, here's one woman who respects and admires Hillary. |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:53 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Well said Becool n/t |
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NC_Nurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
29. Maybe true of people who don't follow politics. Those of us who do |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
36. . |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Silly Girl! |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. My bad. |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
45. Note that the whole article is based on a false premise. Anti-Clinton people love to do this. |
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goddess40 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
47. Terry McAuliffe, Clinton’s campaign chairman - that's enough |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
49. Utter bullshit. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
50. I Think That's All True :( |
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AnnieBW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
53. This woman doesn't want another dynastic President |
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Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
58. Maybe some women just don't like her. eom |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
59. The amount of hatred of women towards hillary is pathetic and disgusting... |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. This is even more insulting than the OP. |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #61 |
64. i should qualify. women in general. not so much here b/c you guys... |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. oh I see. |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. no problem, i see how my post came off. : ) |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #61 |
70. And women don't |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #70 |
72. wow. um, the average person does not get as into Hil's backings... |
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crawfish (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Perhaps it's because... |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #62 |
65. i should have qualified that and said... |
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crawfish (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #65 |
73. Well...some do, I'm sure. |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. For sure. Many. But surely you notice, even just going online in other places... |
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