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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 06:21 PM
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Republicans Out-Raised Democrats for National Committees
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/02/republicans-out-raised-democrats-for-national-commitees/

Republicans Out-Raised Democrats for National Committees

By Leslie Wayne


When it comes to fund-raising, Democrats have outpaced Republicans almost across the board. The lone exception is the Republican National Committee, which reported yesterday that it had raised $83 million for the year, easily topping the Democratic National Committee, which had raised $50.5 million in the first 11 months of 2007.

Republicans say that this cash pile — the Republican committee has $17.2 million on hand, compared to the $2.8 million the Democratic committee reported — should help the Republican presidential nominee in the fall.

“Our significant fund-raising advantage over the D.N.C.,” said Alex Conant, a spokesman for the Republican committee, “will put the Republican nominee in a strong position in the general election, with the resources to communicate our message and mobilize voters.”

The Republicans’ yield reflects the tireless, cross-country efforts of President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney, who put the bulk of what they raised toward the Republican National Committee, not to individual candidates or to Senate and House fund-raising committees. On average, the national committee raised $227,000 a day.

But in the first three quarters of 2007, the top three Democratic presidential candidates raised $200 million and had $98 million left, while the top four Republican candidates raised $154 million and had $35 million left. And every month this year, the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee raised more than the National Republican Senatorial Committee —$49.3 million raised for Democratic Senate efforts as of Nov. 30 (with $23.4 million on hand), compared with $28.7 million for Republican Senate campaigns ($10.4 million on hand).

The Republicans are also at a disadvantage on the House side, with $60.8 million raised by the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee ($30.7 million cash left) compared with $43.4 million for its Republican counterpart ($2.3 million on hand.)
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avrdream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 06:22 PM
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1. Shit I don't like those numbers. What are they up to?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 06:24 PM
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2. Usually...blackmail.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 06:25 PM
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4. Lots of Dems are showing their disgust with decisions that have been
made by not contributing and telling them why. Like myself, for instance.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 06:54 PM
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7. And us, as well. I told them I'd contribute to individual candidates who stand up and fight for us.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 06:24 PM
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3. Perhaps because some of us are giving to the candidates themselves
because of folks like Rahm?
Because our interests aren't being served by the party?
Any number of reasons this might be true.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 06:26 PM
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5. And we believe this because.....?
They're republicans and they say so?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 11:23 PM
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11. Zidzi, the RNC has their parties in the states already. Dean is having to build.
Yet the other Dem committees are getting all the money. Then when he is supposed to fund a compaign, let's say like Edwards who is accepting matching funds which aren't there....then it shows.

Priorities show. Remember this....the Democrats especially in the South had many state parties in bankruptcy or with locked doors.

Democrats do not fund their Democracy like the Republicans do.

Dean had to get 12 state parties out of bankruptcy, pay unpaid debt, get padlocks off doors.

Haven't you noticed? When fundraising letters are posted here from the DNC people pooh pooh them. They say that are not funding the party because of the way Congress votes. In other words they won't fund the DNC because of Reid and Pelosi and their perceived poor leadership.

:shrug: :shrug:

A very important one went out today...but I am not about to post it here and get my head bit off.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 11:51 PM
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15. This one..

Dear z,

The Democratic Party has never been healthier. Just look at the vigorous presidential primary we've got on our hands. Right now, every one of the Democratic campaigns is working around the clock to become our nominee, and any of them would be a great choice.

But when the dust settles and people like you pick our nominee, the real challenge will begin. This time, though, it won't be a debate of ideas with fellow Democrats. It will be against a Republican machine eager to redeem its losses in 2006, fighting to extend George Bush's policies for another four years.

We've all seen the way they run campaigns, so we have to be unified and ready. We know that the Republicans are going to come at us with every scam they think up to suppress the vote.

In the past, they've abused robocalls that hide their true identity, jammed the phones Democrats used for getting out the vote, and purged voters from the voter rolls. We need to be united in order to stop them.

Stand up and show our candidates, our opponents, and the country just how strong the Democratic Party is by joining me in a pledge to support the Democratic candidate for President in 2008 - no matter who wins. When we have a nominee, they'll know that thousands of Democrats from across the country are united - even if they may not have supported them in the primary.

http://www.democrats.org/GetUnited

Every one of the Republican front-runners - Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee and John McCain - would continue President Bush's failed policies. America can't take a third Bush term, but that is all the Republicans offer.

They believe that President Bush's war in Iraq is a success. We believe that it's time to bring our troops home.

They support President Bush's pardon of White House Aide Scooter Libby. We believe in widespread ethics reform legislation to clean up the mess in Washington.

They agree with President Bush's veto of children's health insurance funding. We believe that no parent should have to worry about whether or not they can afford to take their children to a doctor.

No matter who you plan to vote for in the primary, there's one simple fact we can all agree on: Any one of our candidates will be better than four more years of failed Republican policies.

Pledge your support for the Democratic nominee in 2008, and then ask your friends to do the same. Everyone - from the nominee to the media to the Republicans - should know just how many people are behind our candidate this year.

Help us make a big statement:

http://www.democrats.org/GetUnited

Thanks for signing on,

Howard Dean

It's such a sweet one!


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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 11:53 PM
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16. And thanks so much, mad for the
info..it really explains a lot. Gotta look beneath the surface!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:16 AM
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20. You are welcome.
.
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vademocrat Donating Member (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 06:46 PM
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6. This is the DNC - Howard Dean's group - still worthy of $$
The DNC funds the overall democratic party structure and is not just focused on re-electing incumbents like the DSCC and the DCCC are. With Howard Dean as Chairman, the DNC is rebuilding state party infrastructure so that all democratic candidates are competitive in so-called red states.

This is not Rahm Emanuel's (DCCC) or Chuck Schroeder's (DSCC) group which many of us are refusing to donate to because we are not happy with the incumbents in both the house and the senate.

I am giving the majority of my money directly to candidates of my choice but I also donate some to the Democratic National Committee because I do believe it is doing important work in rebuilding the democratic party in places we'd surrendered to the rethuglicans 20 years ago.

BTW - this post isn't directed at you but after reading a couple of the comments already posted I wanted to ensure maximum visibility for this - thanks.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 07:36 PM
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8. That a nice post and much needed here.
Dean was depending on small donations from the grassroots to rebuild the party outside of DC. He has outraised McAuliffe in the last comparable year by several million, but the outgo to the state salaries is a factor that needs more incoming.

The grassroots, especially DU are flat out against donating to the DNC. They blame Dean for the actions of Rahm. That makes no sense.

Many take pleasure in withholding from the one group that was willing to allow us in and bring change.

Thanks for the post.
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vademocrat Donating Member (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 09:30 PM
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9. Thanks - sometimes I feel like I'm "yelling down a well"
but I am so impressed with Howard Dean's reinvigoration of the DNC that I do what I can to make sure people don't lump it in with the DSCC and the DCCC -

I don't understand why people lump the DNC in with DSCC/DCCC...well, except maybe for the acronym overload!:)

I appreciate your comments -
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 11:14 PM
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10. Well, it is a highly unpopular topic here...funding our democracy.
I believe Terry McAuliffe said recently in Iowa for the HRC campaign that she had taken in 120 million. I have not kept up with the totals for the candidates, but they are obscene amounts.

If one says too much here about funding the DNC because Dean is trying to rebuild it outside of DC....then one might get accused of hero worship here. It is a frequent attack against me here.

It has been our chance to show our power as grassroots, but this board chose not to do so. I have tried to understand. I think it goes back to the battles here in the primaries last time.

The same people who supported Dean's rivals still do, even if they are not running. They still hold 04 against those of us who supported his run.

He is beating McAuliffe's fundraising except for the presidential year, but he is the first to fund the staffers in the states. That takes money.

:shrug:

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vademocrat Donating Member (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:39 PM
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23. One reason I end up not posting here very often...
For me it's not just about Dean - my parents were very active in the local democratic party (1960s/1970s)so I got to see the infrastructure from the ground as well as see the connection to state and national democratic committees.

The money in politics these days is obscene - I hope I live to see public funding of elections...:boring: although I'm not holding my breath!

I'll keep an eye out and if I see you being accused of "hero worship" I'll jump right in - 'cause you're not alone in admiring Dean!
:)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 11:57 PM
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17. Yes, thanks, for your post , vademocrat!
Hopefully, once we get a candidate Dean will get more money to keep building the sturdy Democratic foundations in all our states.
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vademocrat Donating Member (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:27 PM
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21. I think you're right - the primaries have everyone's attention!
The DNC also runs ads for and provides money to the democratic presidential candidate in the general election...
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 11:27 PM
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12. Republicans fund their RNC. Dems do NOT fund their DNC.
That is the bottom line. They are willing to fight for those who are fighting for them. We are not.

That is reality. We would rather keep pouring funds at candidates who drowning in money.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 11:36 PM
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13. This is amazing.
Here is a thread full of people saying they refuse to donate to the DNC. Many of these are people who respected Howard Dean and his goals to open up the DNC.

Bragging? Yes, it sounds like that. Sounding alarmed that his committee has not outraised the RNC. Even though the DNC is doing record fundraising, their expenditures are more right now in the rebuilding process.

So we start a thread full of people who are proud NOT to be donating to the DNC but who are simply appalled and disgusted that the RNC is ahead.

We could beat them easily with one million small monthly donations of $20.

But we are griping because the RNC is beating, and acting proud that we are withholding money.

I am scratching my head in wonderment.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 11:44 PM
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14. Also....The RNC does not have the big money they did last time.
They will have to make choices where it goes.

And this thread is still proud of not donating to fund their party, and still sounding appalled at why the DNC is not as much as the RNC?

The lobbyists and corporations are funding the DSCC and DCCC quite happily. That is where they get their desires taken care of.

They have no need to donate to the DNC, not until Harold Ford or Carville take over...or maybe another big money person.

Dean depended on small donors basically. And they decided to blame him for Congress folks who are doing the bidding of corporation, when he is the one trying not to.

:banghead: :banghead:

Proud are you?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:03 AM
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18. The ones who are proud
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 12:06 AM by zidzi
not to be donating to the DNC need to learn what they are doing to build a strong Democratic foundation in all 50 states. We know Dean and the DNC have nothing to do with the corporate dlcers in Congress but it seems there a lot of people who don't. And there's those who don't care and feel like carville that Dean is doing a lousy job because he won't kiss corporateass.

I feel like sending Dean some money right now. :)

Edit~ https://www.democrats.org/page/contribute?source=NETA454
http://www.democrats.org/
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:10 AM
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19. Most months the DNC has outraised the other committees.
But their expenditures for the 50 State plan, giving money to KY to elect a governor, money to VA, money to other states with close races....things we don't hear much about....are more than the others who are using their mainly at election time with little infrastructure to worry about.

The DNC is the main structure for the party, it needs funding. People at DU don't believe in that.

So here is a good page if you really care about analyzing the funds received, spent, and on hand.

http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=29

Scroll down to view each column.

Soon there will be another chairman, one of the nominee's picking. They will be better liked by corporations and lobbyists, so they will bring in bigger money.

Then we can look back and brag that we did not show our grassroots power by funding the committee that opened the door to us.

At the end of the DNC meeting recently, they gave Dean a standing ovation and yelled four more years. He said no, he would have been glad to hear that 4 years ago. I think they know most likely the staffers will be laid off and the 50 state plan not funded. I hope they show their power Dean gave them....they are the ones who vote for the chairman.

My feeling is we had a chance to show grassroots power, and we did not.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:28 PM
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22. Shame on Howard.
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