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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 10:33 PM
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It has taken me a long time, but now my choice is clear - Edwards
I am not going to knock the other candidates. Lord knows, I would certainly prefer them over any Republican on the scene and would vote for them if Edwards does not win the nomination. But no matter how many times I get knocked down, no matter how many tears or bitter disappointments I may have over my choices, no matter how many of them are cut down (like my very first hero and heartbreak in 1968) literally or figuratively I believe I have a moral obligation to choose the candidate who speaks loudly, unambiguously and clearly for the people rather than the other interests that have been for too long controlling our country.

Maybe my one tiny, low volume voice in New Jersey doesn't mean all that much in the scheme of things, but I have decided that John Edwards is the one person who says the things that most clearly echo the thoughts that are in my mind.

When it comes to corporatism, something I despise, he is unabashedly in my corner.

When it comes to health care he is the only one who isn't willing to let the insurance industry which has been raping us all along call the shots and he makes no bones about it.

When it comes to standing up for those among us who need the help of government the most I know all our candidates speak eloquently and well about helping them. But there is something in John Edwards' voice, something about the way he says it, something that moves me to want to stand up and shout words of support.

I have spoken to a good number of my friends over the past few weeks and slowly but surely we have come to the conclusion that Edwards is the one we want as our leader. OK, so maybe I am talking about 8-10 people in my small circle of lifelong friends. But these are people I have known since I was a very young man, people I would trust with my money and my life without hesitation. That they all feel the same way struck me as something I could not ignore.

So I don't know if John Edwards will win Iowa or not, but then again I don't think Iowa will be decisive for any of them. But I can tell you this - When New Jersey gets its turn I will be there for him.

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sandyd921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 10:36 PM
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1. Great post! Glad to have you with us! n/t
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:19 PM
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19. Like your attitude
I have always been for Edwards, since his senate run, any democrat that could beat the eHelms machine is ok in my book. How may have tired and failed.. Terry Sanford , and Jim Hunt, Hunt a former North Caroling Governor. and Terry Sanford former Governor and President of Duke University.
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jhrobbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 09:14 PM
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29. Me too-I have been for him from the first time I heard him speak
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 10:38 PM
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2. R&K!!!
Go Edwards!!!
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 10:41 PM
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3. I totally agree with your choice, and really didn't have a horse in the race..
but I really see Edwards as the electable candidate over all others at this point that really stands for what I believe this country needs. I seriously don't believe that the other two front runners can get us to where we need to be. Been stumbling along hoping that maybe Kucinich could maybe pull it out by some miracle, but I highly doubt that. Will say this again, and I'm sorry if this is offensive to the Hillarybots.... But it has always been for me, anybody but Hillary.....
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mirrera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 10:49 PM
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4. The 10 people I trust... that is true for me too.
My little circle for once all seem to agree on Edwards. It was a real surprise.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 10:53 PM
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5. I have to laugh a little at these posts
I've been watching them appear on this board, a half-dozen or so a week, for the last five months. It's almost like a coordinated campaign. They all read the same ("Oh, I just couldn't make up my mind, but now I'm clear--it's Edwards!"). Is there a script somewhere?

Now, maybe you are sincere, and not one of what I perceive to be a rash of orchestrated "confessionals." But truly, in the aggregate, it's almost funny. Do we believe them? No. But no harm. Good luck to your candidate.

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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 10:58 PM
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7. And your point in posting on this thread is? As a mater of fact, if you...
were to look back on any of my posts you might find that I did not have a horse in the race. Another fact is that I stated many weeks ago that I would be happy to have any Democrat win the Primaries except HRC... So if any part of this bothers you, ya better either learn to deal with it or find another thread to disrupt.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 10:59 PM
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8. Perhaps you should search your own cynical soul
Edited on Wed Jan-02-08 11:00 PM by Jersey Devil
What is it about you that makes you mock those who try to speak from their hearts? Are you so desperate for your candidate, no matter who it might be, that you cannot tolerate those who might disagree?

So the result is a reply to my post by you that questions my honesty and integrity, the oldest and perhaps cheapest trick in the book - an argumentum ad hominem.

Good luck to you as well. Perhaps next time you will exhibit more skill in your feeble attempts to humiliate those who dare to disagree with you.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 11:05 PM
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10. Nice try pal... no cigars for you on this one... I'm kinda surprised by your response...
As I stated, if one reads any of my past posts they will tell a very clear story... (No Hillary)... No real horse in the race...

So WTF is your problem anyway? You want a fight, bring it on.....
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 11:21 PM
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16. Congratulations!
You are the first poster at DU that I have ever put on my ignore list.
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 09:34 PM
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31. Why laugh at them? People come to their decisions at different times
your feeling that there's a "rash of orchestrated 'confessionals'" smacks of paranoia, nothing else.

I'm also a late-comer to the Edwards camp, deciding only over this last weekend to support him first, and all of the other candidates after him should he not get the nomination.

What's not to believe?


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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 10:57 PM
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6. Yep -- me, too. Hope he can pull it off. Otherwise, I'll vote for our nominee with a yawn. nt
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 11:02 PM
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9. great story. I sat on the fence along time too. Unlike 2004 I wasn't jumping
Edited on Wed Jan-02-08 11:03 PM by caligirl
to 'bond' with any particular candidate, except Gore. I kept looking at what Edwards was saying and the way he was saying it, plus EE and their children who have turned out so nicely, the choice was obvious.
There really is no other candidate who understands negotiating is what failed us for the past twenty years. CEO's robbed companies blind and took retirements from people, pay gaps, insurance company profits while people die. I am not interested in another candidate that talks about sweet talking a millionaire who has not a single care or reason to negotiate away what he stole in the first place.



Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that the nastiest of men, for the nastiest of

reasons, will somehow work for the benefit of us all" supposed to have been said by economist John Baynard Keyes.
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AdHocSolver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 09:02 PM
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27. Negotiating per se is not the problem. The problem is those on "our side" did not know how to do it
To successfully negotiate you have to define your own position, i.e., what you want to accomplish and what you will minimally agree to. You have to understand your opponent's wish list and what they will minimally agree to. Then you use these negotiating positions as bargaining points.

The worst example of bad negotiating skills of recent times that comes to mind is when Nancy Pelosi said (and I paraphrase here) "impeachment is off the table". She threw away her best bargaining chip even before negotiation started. Her statement essentially told the Bushites "you can do whatever you want, and don't worry about the consequences, because we won't do anything to hold you accountable".

His success as a litigating attorney, tells me that John Edwards will know what to do, and do it well.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 11:10 PM
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12. Thanks Jersey Devil-
Your support means a lot to a lot of people. I'm writing this from Council Bluffs, Iowa, inside of Edwards Campaign Office. We have not stopped working, and we won't stop, until we win.
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AdHocSolver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 09:28 PM
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30. Edward's should NOT give up no matter what happens in Iowa.
As our original poster pointed out, it takes some people a long time to realize that John Edwards is the best candidate, and our best hope to take back our country. He understands the situation that our country is in, and John is the best-qualified to turn the country around.

More and more people will wake up as the election process works its way to other states, and will start to realize that John is the best person for president. There are a lot of "undecideds" in other states. Edwards has the best chance of any candidate of picking up those votes.

The biggest mistake the Democratic party made in 2004 was "anointing" John Kerry the nominee so early in the race. They took the excitement and mystery out of the primary race and cut off the attention of the media to our candidates and the party's platform. The early effective selection of Kerry meant he didn't have to fight for the nomination, and precluded any other candidate from catching up and winning the nomination. This was a serious mistake and practically handed the election to Bush.

The longer the contest goes on, the more support Edwards will get. Early contests have less significance than the pundits place on them.

Go, John! Go!
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ShadesOfGrey Donating Member (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 11:11 PM
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13. Great choice! Great post! nt
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 11:18 PM
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15. Sorry I posted on your thread by the way, it won't happen again! n/t
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The River Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:07 AM
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17. He Can't See Your Post
As soon as I finish this I'll add you the ignore list too.
Barely 4 months on DU and you think crapping in peoples threads
is acceptable behavior?


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The Purple Shamrock Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 04:14 PM
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18. I love hearing stories like this.
I'm hoping for a lot more undecideds to swing for Edwards as we get down to zero hour.

By the way, what's with all the anger at LakeSamish706? It looks like all he's guilty of is thinking your reply (#8) to frazzled (you know, the guy who made the original loser comment in reply #5) was directed at him. His reply (#7) seems to have been backing you up, actually. Maybe it takes more than a couple of months to get used to threaded discussions. :)

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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:27 PM
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20. Welcome aboard!!
:hi:
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:16 PM
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21. You said it good!
Eight to ten people here, there and everywhere will win this like a landslide. John is THE viable progressive candidate running, and he speaks with conviction, not just words of hope.

:kick: :bounce:

A kick and a bounce for John!!!
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mconvente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:28 PM
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22. New Jerseyan for Edwards here too!
I can't wait to vote for him on Feb. 5th! Let's win Iowa tonight and on to New Hampshire!
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:31 PM
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23. Two here in the smokey nj household!!
It would be six, but our cats can't vote.
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LaStrega Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 08:02 PM
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24. as am I ... voting my heart
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Highway61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 08:05 PM
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25. Thanks for the post
If ot Dennis...it will be Edwards
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 08:23 PM
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26. There are plenty of negative things I could say about Edwards
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 08:30 PM by Hardhead
And perhaps I'll address those someday...

But I am cheering for him tonight! GO EDWARDS!!!

(Kucinich is my candidate, but just like Dean last time around, it looks like Edwards is my only hope to stop the ones I can't bear.)
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 09:04 PM
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28. Misplaced
Western New Yorker - lost somewhere in New Jersey! And I'm right there with you! :pals:

The cool thing about this horse race? Our vote might actually get COURTED next month if this thing stays close in the next three primaries.
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