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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:04 PM
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How much revisionist history can we expect out of Hillary tonight?
I'm thinking she's going to say every but that she wanted to lose Iowa. I thought, in this thread, we could post her and her surrogates quotes that fed the "Hillary Will Win in a Walk" meme.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:05 PM
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1. Speaking of revisionist history!
"I thought, in this thread, we could post her and her surrogates quotes that fed the "Hillary Will Win in a Walk" meme."

Should be a short thread then.
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:06 PM
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2. Oh goodie..now that the first attack has come, and from an Obamabot, no less..
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 07:11 PM by KennedyGuy
we can all feel free to pounce..
wheee!
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:07 PM
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4. Wolsh is freelance
No need to soil the Obama supporters on DU with his association.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:08 PM
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7. "Obamabot" More uncreativity from the Hillary set
Fired Up, Ready to go, right guys?
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:08 PM
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10. I'm ready for your trash all night..
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:12 PM
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15. Here's Some Ammunition
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 07:41 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
I am trying to avoid these internecine pissing matches:

Here's a link to IA polls going all the way back to November of 06...I don't think Hillary was ever inevitable there:


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/ia/iowa_democratic_caucus-208.html
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:13 PM
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17. How...how...DARE you use facts..
hope man....hope
hope trumps facts ya know...
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:13 PM
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20. What would polls before the last election really show?
I mean, really, what does that show?
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:15 PM
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22. Reading is fundamental.
The polls aren't all from '03. They go BACK to '03.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:27 PM
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34. You Opined That She Was Inevitable In Iowa
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 07:41 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
The polls going back to November of 06 belie that assertion..

Res ipsa loquitur:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/ia/iowa_democratic_caucus-208.html
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:07 PM
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3. Ok, then I'll start:
n May, Vilsack was quoted in The Washington Post as saying, "There's no question she's playing in Iowa and playing to win.
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:08 PM
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6. Oprah! Oprah!
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:09 PM
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11. You interpreted that as "she'll win in a walk?"
Hmm, I think I see the problem....
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:11 PM
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13. It's all part of a pattern. Her people are saying that "she's already beat expectations"
Thats bullshit, she expected to win.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:13 PM
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19. No, what is bullshit is claiming that Hillary's camp ever said that they'd win in a walk.
The closest you could get is "she's in it to win".

What did you expect him to say? "Oh, Hillary's running, but she wants to lose!"

You guys are too funny.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:13 PM
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18. And takes the quote out of context to boot.
http://mersmanpolitical.blogspot.com/2007/05/edwards-and-romney-lead-in-latest-iowa.html

So shocking a frothy Hillary hatter is dishonest. :eyes:
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:11 PM
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Gee that seems different that Hillary will win in a walk.
Also that quote was in context of a response to the memo that was leaked saying Hillary should skip Iowa all together

http://mersmanpolitical.blogspot.com/2007/05/edwards-and-romney-lead-in-latest-iowa.html

Shocking you would be dishonest :eyes:
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:16 PM
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24. Is it really so shocking? I thought it was rather typical..
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:08 PM
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5. Agreed.
The "Hillary will win Iowa in a walk" meme certainly wasn't perpetuated by her supporters.

The supporters of her opponents certainly use it a lot, though. I guess they agree with the thought that if you repeat a falsehood often enough, it becomes the truth.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:08 PM
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9. It's taken hold too,
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 07:09 PM by seasonedblue
they should be so proud.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:08 PM
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8. Funny how confident you are now, Wolsh, with the caucus so close & the polls showing her behind
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:10 PM
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12. He will cry real tears if his guy looses..count on it..
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:11 PM
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14. He'll pull his hair out and stamp his lil feet
if that happens.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:12 PM
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16. I honestly don't have a "guy"
4 or 5 people could win, and I'd be giddy. As long as Hillary walks out politically wounded.
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:14 PM
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21. There's the spirit...voting against something is so last election...
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:16 PM
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23. Same evil, different name...
nt
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:17 PM
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25. I'm sure you'll vomit a little in your mouth too..
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:19 PM
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28. Yes you do, you've already stated that you will write in Bloomberg
Bloomberg is your "guy"
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:20 PM
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29. That explains a lot.
Though, I have to admit I thought it might be Ron Paul.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:38 PM
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37. I have NEVER said I would write in Bloomberg....prove it and I'll leave DU
If you can show me a post of mine where I said I will "write him in".

I've maintained that I would vote for him over Hillary depending on the Republican nominee.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:44 PM
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40. Lirwin2 seemed to be using your methodology for quotes/revisionism
Ya know saying one thing as a quote when there is no actual quote.

"I've maintained that I would vote for him over Hillary depending on the Republican nominee."

As of this time, You would have to write him in then wouldn't you?








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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:46 PM
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42. Do I really have to say "If he runs!" everytime I make that comment?
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:48 PM
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44. I am just using your logic
:shrug:
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:55 PM
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46. Actually, your logic is significantly more sound.
"She's in it to win" and "She'll win in a walk" aren't even remotely in the same ballpark.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 08:53 PM
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49. Why would you "write in" a candidate if they're already running?
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:49 PM
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45. Mighty fine line you're walking there.
If you're planning on voting for Bloomberg over Hillary, you'll have to write him in if he isn't officially on the ballot.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:18 PM
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26. You better save some of the venom for later
Its going to be a long night for you.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:18 PM
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27. That's great advice for yourself.
Hopefully you will take it.
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:21 PM
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31. Not really..I'm happy no matter how this turns out
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 07:22 PM by KennedyGuy
poor baby....
you're really scared aren't you Wolshie....
go on now, change your diaper..and move along now...
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:20 PM
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30. I don't think you were told to leave your man corner.
LOL.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:24 PM
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33. LMFAO
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 07:25 PM by Lirwin2
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3931992&mesg_id=3932910
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:36 PM
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36. Well played
:)
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fightindonkey Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:22 PM
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32. Excuse Me, But We've Been Talking About Iowa And Clinton And The Likelyhood For Weeks
That's not revisionism. They've never voted a woman to higher office. She will win NH.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:27 PM
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35. Move along to the next window people and pick up your fries.
Nothing here.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:41 PM
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38. I'd like something to go with those fries. :)
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:55 PM
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47. Cat_Girl...with your fries...
we will gladly give you Wolsh.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:43 PM
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39. Admittedly, this thread was ill timed, I should have waited until the spin started late tonight
nt
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:45 PM
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41. Slink away....
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:47 PM
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43. I'm not going anywhere. Say what you will about me but...
I'm not a hit and run poster.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:56 PM
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48. Attacking Hillary for something she hasn't even said? That's getting pretty desperate.
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 07:56 PM by Perry Logan
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