For those C-Span watchers...did somebody just say Obama had 161/375?

In the premiliminary results for the Obama side of the room. That would be great for that if that was true.

Actually, from your fingers to God's... never mind.

I'm for Edwards but I'm getting chills. CHANGE IS COMING, PEOPLE!!!!!

In this precinct.

Even though there's a long way to go. Let's Gobama!

Never to be confused with Joementum, ever!!! I already know who I am going to vote for when the traveling circus comes to CA, but I have friends that left months ago to work on the Obama campaign and I am happy for them tonight. It is good to see old friends when they come back victorious.

That'll work. :-).

161 is almost half of the room, before realignment

Holy cow.

What does 161/375 mean? Is Obama now up, sadly I do not have a TV!

The rural areas seem to be Edwards all the way, though, judging from early returns. Damn, this is fascinating!!

With Edwards on top.

Am I missing something?

57 needed to viable.

Why can't they vote for who they fucking want? This is unbelievable. This is the media whore of a democracy.

Take a valium buddy and pour scotch on the rocks.

It practically gives no chance for the second tier candidates. Talk about rubbing out your competition.

If they ain't making it now, there's no way they'll make it period.

And I actually prefer a caucus system to a primary because it forces people to actually participate actively.

If you can't get 15% of the vote, you're not a viable candidate. Iowa caucus rules.

And, voting usually is used to determine a winner.

If 'second-tier' candidates had a better message, and organization, they would be 'first-tier'.

"That's how it works." "Oh, that's how it's always been, honey." That is bull. A democracy shouldn't force you to do anything but vote. And for my money, Biden had the better message, but the others had better quirks, thus were floated up on the media balloon circus. 'The Fist Woman President." "The First Black President." "The 'Uncorrupt' President." Bogus. I want a president with answers. I want a president with experience. Biden or Dodd. But no! "That's just how the corrupt system works, sweetie." You know what, screw this system. THe same people spouting off about change and new politics are actually supporting this undemocratic caucus? If Biden isn't nominating, then I'm not voting this year. And even if it doesn't make a difference since I live in Texas, I will feel better sticking to my laurels.

Just because your candidate didn't register enough votes with the Iowa caucus goers does not make it a corrupt system.

The candidate with the MOST VOTES WINS. Not too hard to grasp, is it?

Stay home and pout in the general, then. You'll show 'em.

Me, I'm voting for the Democratic candidate, and I don't care if it's can of beans that gets the nomination.

...I say we should be able to vote individually. You're saying most votes win? Are you even reading my words? And I know I can't change anything. You know what, as a historian, it's America's own fault if they derail their country even more. Go figure. But I would at least like to see a fair election. But go ahead. You're winning. You don't care about a corrupt system. Go figure. Just another reason why I won't be voting for any of the media-hyped 'top-tier' candidates.

I guess you don't 'get' Democracy.

...Because you're not saying anything at all. You keep contradicting me with no evidence why I should think to the contrary. I say we should vote individually. However, you say... well, you have nothing to say at all. Maybe you should back down from the insulting and form a god damn sentence.

Pay attention. You're on the best progressive site on the web, and we all get what Iowa is about. Study up. You're kicking a straw man.

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They said they want "change"! Booo-ya!

Fascinating!!!!