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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:13 PM
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Obama won among the "very liberal" by a mile. But... I thought he repeated right-wing talking points
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 11:14 PM by antiimperialist
Very liberal:

40% for Obama
24% for Clinton
16% for Edwards

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/epolls/#val=IADEM
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:15 PM
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1. Yes, it's a bizarre twist.
Edwards clearly has the most liberal message,
and is the only one speaking specifically and
strongly for the poor and working classes.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:18 PM
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3. Yeah. That's my camp.
Edwards has not been able to communicate with his natural constituency, apparently.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:17 PM
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2. People rely on racial stereotypes, both pro and con
Progressives think: Obama is black, so me must be a leftist.

Moderates think: Edwards is a southern white guy, so he must be a moderate.

Positive stereotyping is as common as negative.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:19 PM
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4. I suspect you're right.
And voting for a black guy is SUCH a liberal, PC thing to do!
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:58 PM
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18. Edwards is a moderate
His voting record as a senator was very moderate/conservative. Perhaps people are looking at more than his recent revival as a populist, and *gasp* looking at his record.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:20 PM
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5. Examples??

I didn't hear any right wing talking points.
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:23 PM
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8. Krugman said Obama repeated social security fear-mongerin right-win talking points
But my point is that Obama won despite these allegations.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:21 PM
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6. Odd result only if you don't note win was due to age 17 to 29 who think they are "left" but are
more into "it's my generations turn".

Older activists no doubt thought they were not "very liberal" - just "liberal" - and they are the ones voting for Hill and Edwards.

I read it as an age split. The first contest that will not be determined by the college kids will be 2/5.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:25 PM
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9. I bet you're right. His opposite stance of Bush on Iraq probably equates to "very liberal" to them.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:22 PM
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7. I guess Iowa wasn't deeply troubled by the McKlurkin thing
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 11:23 PM by dailykoff
whatever the hell that was about.
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FredfromSpace Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:26 PM
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10. And he talked about "more affordable health care"
His position on this key issue is by far the weakest in the pack.

What a disappointment.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:26 PM
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11. Maybe he's taking back right wing talking points that belong to us? nt
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gemlake Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:27 PM
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12. It's the war, stupid
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:27 PM
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13. People are getting partisan and liberal mixed up. n/t
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:27 PM
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14. Obama eats gay kittens
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 11:27 PM by Bleachers7
:evilgrin:
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:34 PM
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15. People seem to project what they are on their candidate.
Conservatives see that Edwards is a white male and think he must be conservative even thought he is liberal. They see an African-American male, and they think that he must be liberal even though he is more conservative than the white males, Edwards and Kucinich. Very strange.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:39 PM
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16. Did Obama go to Herzliya to brag about to bombing Iran?
Did Obama vote for Kyl-Lieberman? No and no. You're the one projecting.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:40 PM
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17. His stats are a kaleidoscope of range.
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 11:40 PM by AtomicKitten
Pretty spectacular really.
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:59 PM
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19. I'm 'very' liberal
I support Obama
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:01 AM
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20. This just shows how out of touch site like this are
I'm not surprised.
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:03 AM
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21. Why don't you think they are out of touch?
DU'ers and progressive bloggers in general are better informed that regular voters.
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:05 AM
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22. I don't think that's true
I've found that people here and on the blogs are far less informed. The problem is that they get into this echo chamber where they repeat false information and become deluded. There was a poll a while back that showed this.
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:06 AM
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23. Why is that surprising? He is a liberal Democratic senator.
With one of the more liberal voting records in the senate.
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