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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:42 PM
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WHY I'M SUPPORTING OBAMA-posted before, but maybe now it will make more sense.....
I posted this here when I first decided to officially support Obama (I had been leaning his way for some time)

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I'll vote for Obama.

I'm voting for Obama because I'm tired of Status Quo boxed up thinking; tired of too many promises and unrealistic demands; tired of the fighting and divisiness and fake-ass calls to arm that gets us nowhere, and tired of people telling me who's electable. I know what I know, and because of this, Barack has my vote.

I think that nominating one who will excite the could-be voters who don't vote is the way to a win. Obama can and will do this. The lines in the South in particular will go round blocks after blocks. Folks will be bringing their sleeping bags and their water bottles, their mamas and their second and third cousins. Young people will be out in droves to participate in making history happen, and will stand by in eagerness as they witness the Ultimate American dream made real. The percentage of people that could vote but don't could bring in at least an extra 20-30% more voters realistically. Sure, there will be the racist voters out there, but I believe that the voters we gain will outnumber the number of voters we lose.

And if elected, Obama will use his oratory skill (and yes, he is skilled at this like none of the others) to bring back the power of the bully pulpit like it has not been used in a long while. When Obama's on the TeeVee, the channel will not be turned. Our President, if it is Obama, will rally not just the people of the United States, but he will rally the people of the world. They will listen attentively as well. Hell, they'll want to watch us make history too!

And yes....the world will be watching our general election with a large magnifying glass. The world will report on every goings on. Our media will simply not be allowed to get away with at much as they have in the past, because the world media (which is much more just than our own) won't let them get away with it. The world will wait for us to show them what American democracy is supposed to look like, and they will be watching closely to find each and every flaw.

With Obama as the Nominee, this will be an election like no other.

I do believe that President Obama will be able to work out compromises, and get most of what he proposes; he's a reasonable man with a reasonable vision and a reasonable approach to get it done. He's not offering me "pie in the sky"...and for that, I am grateful. I don't want a candidate who promises me the moon, only to hand me a few speckles of stardust and expects me to be satisfied. I want what I am told I'm gonna get and I feel that Obama is willing to give me what he said he's gonna give me...and maybe more, but never less.

Certainly, Obama has made mistakes; hell, they all have! But since I have to choose between the mistakes make on war and peace (that affects everything in our government) versus the mistake made on who a candidate chose to highlight in some campaign tour, I'll go with Obama's mistake.

FrenchieCat
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:43 PM
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1. Compromises. We give in. They win. Lotta change gonna happen.
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 11:44 PM by aquart
Do you even listen to yourself?

On edit, don't they call that "triangulation" when the woman does it?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:46 PM
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2. you don't get it, and that is alright......
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 11:55 PM by FrenchieCat
Obama at the bully pulpit will get his strength for negotiation from the people. When one is negotiating from a strong position, everything is possible. Maybe one day you will realize that a revolution is not going to happen. We want a peacemaker, not a warmonger.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:47 PM
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3. Pleeeez don't be a poor loser.
This poster is excited about a candidate--but you and I both know the race isn't over yet.

Leave it alone.

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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:40 AM
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6. A voice of reason.
Your comment is correct.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:53 PM
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4. No - Bill Did It Too, And It's Much Different Than What Obama Seems To Be Doing
Triangulation means camping out one inch to the left of the Repubs - which ends up pushing everything to the right.

What Obama *seems* to be doing is to stay within realistic guidelines while pushing to the left.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:33 AM
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5. I agree with you.....
The art of politics is persuasion! :thumbsup:
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:53 AM
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9. That's exactly how I see it.
Bill Clinton, much as I loved him, alternated between sounding like a populist and a conservative while capitulating to the corporatists. Barack Obama sounds like a moderate "post-partisan" but will pull the country to the left.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:56 AM
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10. I'm wondering the same
about you.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:14 AM
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12. Mandatory police interrogations
Participants in the negotiations describe Obama as standing firm on some issues, but willing to compromise on others.

They cite his refusal to narrow the law so that only a suspect's confession had to be recorded, insisting that the entire interrogation be put on tape, so a suspect cannot be threatened or beaten off camera.

"That was a first point at which he could have taken the easy route. He said no, we're not doing it that way," recalled Kathryn Saltmarsh, who represented the Illinois Appellate Defender's office in the negotiations.

On other things he was willing to compromise.

He went along with allowing departments to make audio recordings if they couldn't afford video equipment and training, and for a judge to allow an unrecorded statement in some cases -- but then prosecutors would have to prove it had been obtained without coercion.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/11/12/124344/53

He worked on this for years and got it passed, 58-0. He speaks his convictions. When he negotiates, he says so and doesn't do something like pretending he's suddenly the "change agent".

And "triangulation" is what Bill Clinton invented, has nothing to do with gender.
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:08 AM
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7. Ditto
Great post Frenchie. Now we need to convert the ones who love him but are afraid that he can't win. Tonight's results showed that he is definitely electable.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:50 AM
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8. You are correct!
and Thanks!

:hi:
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:58 AM
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11. Gotta Open Eyes
and overcome fears. I was just talking about this at work today. One of my coworkers said he liked Obama, but he was afraid that the country wasn't ready. Iowa has proven that the country is ready!!!

New Hampshire here we come.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:15 AM
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13. Cheers.
Great night tonight!
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:27 AM
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14. How odd. I respect this post.
Now mind you, I don't quite AGREE, mainly because I don't think Obama will be as effective in getting things done as you do, nor do I think he is Left enough to suit me.

The odd part is that you posted this. I have seen such vitriolic snark from you directed at Obama's opponents it is hard to believe that you authored such a reasoned post, filled with hope. For that, kudos to you, and I hope that you can continue the reasoned tone when in future we discuss candidates other than Obama.

Enjoy your candidate's victory Frenchie.

:toast:
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