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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:00 AM
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How can Edwards appeal to the Clinton supporters who are dropping off the bandwagon?
It seems that Obama has a better chance of grabbing them with his more conservative approach.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:03 AM
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1. well obama is a washington insider, does that give him the "inside" track? nt
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:04 AM
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2. Easy - Hillary was Always too Conservative
If one supported Hillary because of Bill, or because Hillary seemed so "inevitable," or because Hillary had raised so much money -- and was actually substantially more liberal than Hillary -- then the move to Edwards makes more sense.

Edwards' "old time religion" rhetoric about going after the richest and the corporations is a VERY POWERFUL appeal. It was the foundation of the progressive movement for 50 years.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:05 AM
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3. Do you really think HRC's supporters would drop off this soon?
I support Edwards but believe HRC will be back and will probably
end up with the nomination.

I am so proud of Edwards tonight ---THe Message Matters.
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MS Liberal Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:07 AM
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4. He can not because he has been a jerk!!!
He has been nothing but Mr. Mean. I would not vote for him to wipe spit off the sidewalk.

Iowa messed up in 2004 and rejected Howard Dean, now they've done it again. Given us another person who is a good speaker when in Democratic Land but buckles when the mean machine start attacking.

God help us.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:09 AM
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5. Obama is Bloomberg lite, if Bloomberg were running
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 01:11 AM by EVDebs
"But even in his "populist" commercial, Obama features "I brought Democrats and Republicans together" themes.

No one should doubt the power of Obama's unity appeal. He delivers it well. And, after the divisiveness of the Bush-Cheney years, there is indeed something refreshing about the prospect of a president who embraces the promise of negotiation and compromise.

"Change isn't going to come because people are hollering more, talking tough... We don't need more heat. We need more light," says Obama, clearly seeking to contrast his message with that of Edwards.

Edwards begs to differ.

He is not looking for the middle ground at this point. He's not promising "win-win" solutions.

"I don't believe you can sit at a table and negotiate with drug companies, insurance companies and oil companies and hope that they will voluntarily give their power away," the 2004 Democratic vice presidential nominee explained in Des Moines Wednesday night. "They will give their power away when we take their power away." "

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat?pid=265081

If you want to sing kumbayya with cutthroat corporate interests, Obama's your man. Comity is what the GOP lures the naive to the table with, and then they shut the door and eat them for dinner.

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AdHocSolver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:57 AM
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6. Edwards understands the corporations. Obama does not.
The public model for the typical corporate executives are Bush and Cheney. Corporations will compromise with a new administration as willingly and easily as Bush and Cheney have compromised with Congress.

If Obama doesn't understand this, then he doesn't understand what he is up against. If he does really understand the score, then he is misleading the public on the fight ahead. Either way, I don't care to have him be the next president.

Edwards words ring true. They tell me that Edwards understands the situation the country is in, and he is prepared to be a tough negotiator with the corporations.

We actually had plenty of negotiation and compromise under Bush. The Democrats compromised with Bush and gave Bush everything he wanted.

Wake up folks! Clinton is corporate and Obama is dreaming. The 2008 election is our last chance to save the country from having the corporations drive it off a cliff. A trillion dollar trade deficit, trillion + dollar federal deficit, 47,000,000 people uninsured, off-shoring of millions of American jobs, global climate change getting worse, housing market tanking, value of the dollar dropping, and on and on. The only bright spot is that the wealthy stock owners are still doing well.

If Obama's soothing words can help you forget all of this, I am happy for you. Personally, I hear Edwards' last ditch effort to wake up the country before it is too late.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:55 AM
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13. Underlined, exclamation point, AdHocSolver !
Plus it isn't really till SuperTuesday with California activists for Edwards when you'll see his progressive support turn out en masse. In my area I'm going to a meetup on Weds night and can hardly wait !
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 03:07 AM
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7. Clinton supporters are abandoning her? Huh?
I don't see it happening. Why would/should they? As we Edwards supporters say, it's not over. The same applies to Hillary Clinton, as far as I can see.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 09:44 AM
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8. Umn, she finsihed third with all that money and one with one of the most slick campaign statff
available. Plus the free corporate media push didn't help her either.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 09:49 AM
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9. Who says Clinton supporters are dropping off the bandwagon?
I'm not and still have great hopes...especially if Tweety would keep his mouth shut.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 09:50 AM
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10. Me
thank you. I'm usually very good about stuff like this.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 09:51 AM
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11. Fact Check: Edwards got more support from "conservatives" than either Obama or Hillary
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:57 AM
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16. Rural 'red staters' are what will bring Edwards a victory in the long run
JE's message is coming home to them. They've been lied to and he is spelling it out to them much like Ross Perot did in '92 only Perot was an insider corporatist who at least knew what effect the 'giant sucking sound' was going to have.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 09:53 AM
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12. Moving to Edwards now is a noble
Edwards is done
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:56 AM
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14. Obama isn't all that appealing to many Clinton supporters.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:56 AM
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15. By winning a freakin' primary. n/t
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 12:10 PM
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17. Give up public financing?
If other Clinton supporters are like me, we are willing to have faith that any of the top Dem candidates would be a positive change for the country (each in their own way perhaps), so we then can just go with who we think has the best chance of actually winning. Edwards has a seriously reduced chance of winning unless he either gives up the public funding or comes up with a plan to counter a $100 million ad campaign against him that he won't be able to rebut.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 12:20 PM
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18. Masquerading as a Clinton supporter and posting lots of concern threads would be a good start!
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 12:20 PM
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19. Thanks for pointing that out. I noticed it too.
Edited on Sat Jan-05-08 12:21 PM by goldcanyonaz
Much like the Republicans in Iowa disguising themselves as Obama supporters.

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