Freepers bragging of voting as Democrats -- against Hillary

Looks like the republicans are pushing for Obama:

The Untold Story Of The Iowa Caucus - Change In Party Registration

Went to a Democrat Caucus tonight. In my opinion the big, untold story is the huge number of people standing in line with me to register and/or change registration.

In my case, the change is temporary. I participated as a Democrat so I could help push Hillary into third place. How many more like-minded people did as I did?

Two more include my wife and mother-in-law - in their case they did not change registration, but did turn out to help defeat Hilary.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1948106/posts">Looks like Obama supporters have some allies on the dark side

Look at who they chose for their annual Freeper pinup girl of the year:



They are NO ONES --- LOSERS ---- COCKROACHES.

..

That they've used their superior intelligence and knowledge to figure out that Obama would be the weakest nominee.

Frankly, I couldn't care less about what the Freepers think.

because they actually want him to win. Believe what you will, Obama IS electable. And why would you want to hang out with the Freeps?

Thats obvious...They see him as the easy target

Every single time you make a claim about Senator Obama, you all are DEAD wrong.

So... you want that with fries?

I am merely posting what republicans are saying.

your response is to get personal. Thats the only thing that sours me about Obama, a large percentage of his supporters are assholes. They smear, they lie, they attack other candidates and the supporters of other candidates on a personal level, but implode at the smallest amount of criticism, or even the perception of criticism, against their candidate.

"They" come in all different types, just as we Dems do. Many of them are weak, or are one-issue voters that have decided that the Repub way isn't getting this country anywhere. I was once a right-leaning Independent that needed to find his way and wisen up.

Old fart McCain was praying like hell for an HRC victory.


"Shit. She came in 3rd ??????"




"Damn, Damn, DAMN"

Because it will keep that WOMAN from winning. And we can't have that.

Everyone knows the Republicans are going to lose. Now they have to make sure they still get their MAN into office.

although I think it was more to prop up Obama because they know he can't win a general election. Edwards is the biggest threat they face.

than Obama.

The guy in the OP never said who he voted for. I'm guessing it was Edwards if he wanted to push her to 3rd.

I keep hearing the freepers voted for Obama, not Edwards.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/epolls/index.html#IADEM

Edwards lead Obama 42-21 among conservatives
Among Republicans, it's 44-32 for Obama

There's no way that Freepers are going to do anything that benefits a black man, regardless of how it would effect Hillary.

Their racism would transcend the ridiculous myth of Hillary's "liberalism" that FAUX and Mush have programmed into their pea-brains.

Obamas supporters here are under the warped delusion that republicans will rush out to vote for Obama because he will sing 'Kumbaya' with them.

Dems and Independents will take care of the rest. :woohoo:

Besides, I don't see any way that the right-wingers want Hillary to lose the primary, because they've got a fetish for dragging up all the old bullshit again, and they haven't gotten to exercise it yet.

There's no way that an Obama victory helps the Republicans. Just look at his favorable/unfavorable numbers. He's got the highest favorables and lowest unfavorables of any presidential candidate, followed closely by Edwards. Highest unfavorables, Clinton, followed by Saint Rudy of 9/11.

And Bigotry is the glue that holds them together. They hate everyone and everything. Gays, Liberals, the French, Mexicans, Black voters, immigrants, hippies, anyone who is anti-war, muslims, you name it, they hate it. Bigotry is the least common denominator among republicans. One enjoyable thing, if Obama is the nominee, is thst the GOP will self destruct in a racist frenzy. I have always loved watching the GOP self destruct.

Then they pull up examples about Clinton's cabinet versus Bush, and stuff like that. They say too many older Democrats are racists.


How about both parties stop demonizing one another, by pretending the other owns all faults and one's self has only virtues?

Anyone who wants to demonize Dems has plenty of other places they can go.

Because Bill Clinton beat their hero Newt, proved that you can be a sucessful Democrat, reversed the Reagan recession, created more new jobs than anybody probably since FDR, and did it all while evading their constant attacks and taking away their supposed issues of smaller government and balancing the budget. They hate his living guts for that, which is why they've never been able to let go of the "Blame Clinton" mantra.

More than anything else, the Republicans want the chance to attack the Clintons again. That's worth more to their psyches than all the race-baiting and gay-bashing you can fill a sack with, and it might be the only thing that could hold them together as a party after the disaster of the last 8 years.

you dont have to believe it

3% of Democratic caucus attendees were Republicans.
Out of that miniscule number, we are to believe they are posters at FR?
Nope.

They have the idea that the Democrats pulled the same shit to propel Huckabee forward....though I think that was entirely a fundy-licious exercise.

The Evilangelicals came out in record numbers in Iowa to vote. :shrug:

Edited to add: For Huck.

not a consensus at all that that's what happened in iowa.

it's also important to consider that the republican movers and shakers hate huckabee....... but more 'normal' grassroots people like him, and it was those normal grassroots people who put huckabee over the top. so, why worry about obama, and not what's happening within one's own party?

something deep is happening within the republican party, just as something deep is happening within the democrat -- but the republicans have less 'true conservative' choices. so republicans lose. if you look at freeperville, a lot more people feel its ominous about how energized democrats were in iowa tonight, than are crowing about republicans pulling double-agent stuff.

that's the real story, that energy; not this.

anyway, we're all in the same boat, methinks. we need to come together.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1948056/posts#comment?q=1

Are Freepers being paranoid, or was this a legitimate gaffe on Edwards' part?

One man come in the name of love
One man come and go.
One man come he to justify
One man to overthrow.

In the name of love
What more in the name of love.
In the name of love
What more in the name of love.

One man caught on a barbed wire fence
One man he resist
One man washed up on an empty beach
One man betrayed with a kiss.

In the name of love
What more in the name of love.
In the name of love
What more in the name of love.

Early morning, April four
Shot rings out in the Memphis sky.
Free at last, they took your life
They could not take your pride.

In the name of love
What more in the name of love.
In the name of love
What more in the name of love.

In the name of love
What more in the name of love.
In the name of love
What more in the name of love.

From the days of the mighty Bono power-mullet....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8Pnlhs7grQ

is Edwards saying that he is like MLK?
is he really?

that he's prepared to die for the nomination, and for his beliefs?
that tonight he'd been assassinated for those beliefs by negative haters but he will triumph still, because his message is more powerful, more positive, it is love and universal?

if he is, he's being whiny, in my opinion.

if he is not, he needs to get his message more on point.


the song is set on the day of King's assassination.


i'm with the freepers, it's a strange song choice -- not least because of (again) black fears of assassination, and that reason among many irrational reasons that can't be ignored for why many blacks will never vote for Obama or any African-American as POTUS.

They'd better get their bullshit straight before they try to walk it. lol

She doesn't want Obama to win. I don't know when we DU'ers will lay off the negative Dem trashing BS.

Fallacy: Ad Hominem


DUer A makes post X.
Person B makes an attack on person A.
Therefore A's post is somehow flawed.

good night

All they said is that they wanted to knock Hillary into 3rd, probably because they hate her, not because they think either of the other 2 would be easier to beat.

:eyes:

Did they get porta-potties for those Hill caucuses? LOL....

A large percentage of them pretending to be Independents, since a miniscule number of Repubs actually caucused for Obama.

Tricky, tricky bastards those Freeps are!

Obama has the money to beat the Repug....Edwards and his matching funds don't.

They, the Freepers, would have prefered Edwards, as was shown that the most conservatives voted for Edwards.

Obama attracted Independents and the youth. Take the Independents and the GOP out and Obama still won. Independents are not Freepers by far.

Amazing that we believe Freepers and what they say when it is convenient to our cause. :shrug:

Registration to vote against HRC. Naturally they will immediately
change back to Republican for the GE.

I warned about this-this is oldest Gop trick in the book.

they don't even care which one gets the nomination.

At any rate, better they should be voting against Hillary now, that doing it in the GE.

No one would be more likely to get out the right wing vote then her. They are counting on her getting the nomination.

Hillary is the one they fear most because they know the Clintons have the skills to play them and win, time after time after time.
That's why they went bananas on Bill with their semen-sniffing jihad - they were at their wit's end.

The simple fact is that Publicans are all pretty resigned to losing the 2008 election and they are terrified it will be to Hillary.

The Clintons are like maestros against Publicans, and now with a Democratic Congress, well, it's their worst nightmare.

But I doubt they could have done too much of it without it turning into a story. My guess is that Publicans and right-wing 'independents' accounted for a few percentage points. Maybe Obama would have won 34 to 29 instead of 38. Who knows. Obama still won. His empty preacher rhetoric is a big sell with the young and inexperienced.

Let's hope that New Hampshire starts being a little more serious, but don't count on it too much. The NH primary has similar problems to Iowa's caucuses.

how pitiful--the man can't win without republicon first aid and the bush-push-over-crowd.

the jokes on them because they are taking out the Democratic candidate they can easily beat...they're so STUPID! :silly:

More effective I think....

In other words, Freepers are liars desperately compensating for very small penises.

Why else would they always argue that they need assault weapons for "hunting"?

Cause they can beat Obama!!!!!!!

:eyes:

The right doesn't get off its collective ass to do anything. Hell look at how few of them (relative to Dems) participated in Iowa and they NEVER EVER march. They are a bunch of lazy ass crybabies. I find it hard to believe that any more than a few of them actually went out at night into the general public to do this.

you people are embarrassing yourselves.

On the exit polls where the data on the number of Republicans and Independents who voted for Obama are gathered. Were there a few who are gonna brag about it? Sure. Is it significant? Highly unlikely.

And Liberman doesn't pretend to be a Democrat anymore.

n/t

After 2006, I don't think the Freeps are as confident in their party's ability to steal the election, so they would have to face the reality that the man their propagandists have branded as a "RADICAL BLACK MUSLIM !!!!!1111!!!!!!1111" could actually BE elected, if he is the nominee. Even the Freeps know that Chimp has hurt their party's chances in 2008.

And they were NOT making it up!!!

;)

Sry, was meant as reply to OP.

I witnessed that myself.

I witnessed droves of Republicans voting for KUCINICH back in 2004.

I witnessed that myself. Honest.

But not for the reason I had originally thought.

I recently traveled to the Midwest and the Southwest for family matters. Fortunately, my only contact with Repubs is when I visit family, otherwise I can avoid them in my normal life.

Here is what I got in those two states. All of them are voting for Obama in the primary because they must stop Hillary. The reason they must stop Hillary (as was screamed at me) is because if she is elected President she will be vindictive.

When probed further what it means is that she will go after the corruption and treason of the Bush crime family and administration and the congressional Repubs. There real fear is that she will do unto them as they have done unto her.

Of the top three Dems they feel that Obama is the least vindictive because of his "can't we all just get along" policy. In other words, they think they can roll him.

I am not saying this is an accurate view on the part of the hateful Repubs - I am just saying that this is how they see it. They know that they have mistreated her and they don't want it to come back on them.

I asked every primary Obama voter that I encountered if they would vote for him in the general - everyone of them laughed at me.

She's already had the better part of two decades to do so, and hasn't.

Honest. You'll just have to take my word for it.

I've asked every primary Hillary voter that I encountered if they would vote for her in the general - everyone of them laughed at me.

I wonder which one of us is right? ;)

He's a life long Democrat but registered as a Repub to vote against a particularly vile Republican who had potential to get to Washington as a Representative. And he wasn't alone. A lot of people did it.

But, they don't switch parties or re-register to vote in the primary. They just go to the polling place and ask for either a Dem or Repub ballot - no switching or declaring new party is necessary.

And, if you are not registered to vote at all you can do instant registration at your polling location.

Lots of independents in N.H. The question is will they care more about the Romney/McCain thingie or the Obama/Clinton thingie.

They've been promoting her for the better part of a year and, IMHO, are responsible for the "inevitability" factor that was associated with Clinton. Hillary's a dream come true for them. They can bash her as a woman because Republican women know their place is in the home (not to mention that subservient thing). They can bash her for every scandal already known. They can bash her for the failed health care policy. They can call her a flip flopper and replay that debate footage time and time again. In addition, they've probably got a new pile of dirt waiting and ready to go. Nothing will energize the Republicans more than Hillary.

what seems like a healthy percentage of DUers who don't see this clearly. I don't think there is any ambiguity or debatable aspects of this. The GOP lacks a candidate who can "fire up the base", and yet we may well give them someone to do that for them. Unreal. It's amazing how much conservatives hate Hillary. It's so bad that I don't doubt that many would like to see her picked off in the primaries because they hate her so much. The smart play, and the play that the king makers in the GOP are making, is to get Hillary through the primaries and into the GE. If we nominate her, we deserve eight more years of GOP incompetence and ideology.

But, I doubt this story is factual to the extent it swung the election?

there were 555 voters in my precinct's caucus last night, and the Obama group was completely dominated by "KIDS" - 25-year-olds and under! The Freepers can't put together one simple request for the proper number of porta-potties, let alone mobilize tens of thousands of college students to go out and do their evil bidding!!! :rofl:

ENOUGH WITH THE TINFOIL!! GIVE IOWANS SOME CREDIT FOR MAINTAINING THE INTEGRITY OF THE PROCESS!

I'm sure a lot of this is speculation and colorful thinking. I doubt such a huge number of Republicans did this so as to actually make this sort of difference. Perhaps there WERE a lot of people who switched from Repub to Dem, but because they were genuinely disenchanted with the Republican party. Not for the reason stated in the OP. Though I can see how Freepers would try to say it was "to oust Hillary" - they hate the fact that people really are switching sides.

It sounds a little far-fetched to think that SO MANY genuine Republicans forfeited the chance to vote in their own primary. :shrug:

making this all the funnier.

I arrived at 6:15 P.M. and stood in line for 30 min. to get into my caucus. I was there until 8:45 P.M. when the count was finalized.

Seems like a lot of work, would take a really motivated Reichbot, definitely not of the GrandpaFred variant.

There were a few pasty faced white guys, but most of us in the Obama group appeared to represent the cross section of Democratic America.

Also, I was one of those independents. I have voted Dem since my first vote in '80 for Carter. I generally register Independent. It's Iowa, have to cut down the robocalls somehow.

Now, I have no doubt there were 50, maybe 100, who went to the trouble. In the end, insignificant.

In fact, by raising the Dem caucus numbers in general, they're helping the cause as far as BIG DONORS are concerned.

We should find out who they are and thank them profusely.