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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 09:54 AM
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Infuriated - Obama email being circulated by church group
For the first time in all these months that I've heard about the nasty Obama email, I just received in it my email - forwarded to me from a nurse who lives in S. Carolina. She was too ignorant to cut and paste, so I have the place of origin and the name of the person who initiated it, including home phone, fax and email. The message is disgusting, but claims to be "verified by Snopes" and encourages everyone to forward to save our country. I am literally shaking, I am so angry. I have already responded to her, but I don't know if I should respond to the group who is forwarding this, or if I should post the name of the group here. We have got to start fighting this.. after his win last night, it's just beginning. Any advice appreciated.. I am livid.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 09:56 AM
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1. OK, so what's in the e-mail?
We can't fight it if we don't know what it is about.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:03 AM
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8. I refuse to repeat it. Its the same b/s that's been discussed here
time and time again and I won't give it face time on this board. They've ratcheted the rhetoric up a notch, however. I'm going to post the originating group and maybe a good reporter can look into it.

Mission Service Corps
Welsh Neck Association
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:13 AM
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23. Thanks for not posting it, K! nt
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:49 AM
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30. There is a thread up right now with it printed in full
look for the thread that states Edwards won the Democratic voters in Iowa. I think that was the title.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 09:56 AM
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2. I'd respond to the group after you calm down, and maybe send a
copy to the Obama campaign. Let them deal with it; they know it's coming. And many junk e-mails like that now claim it's been checked by snopes just to throw you off. Sending the snopes link calling it bullshit doesn't hurt either.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:07 AM
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15. For General Information
Snopes doesn't always have it right.

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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:12 AM
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21. In this case, they do:
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 09:57 AM
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3. What does it say? I have not heard of this email. nt
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NoBorders Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:01 AM
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7. It says Obama is a Muslim 'plant'
who wants to 'take over' america or some such thing, falsely stating that he attended a madrassa in Indonesia. I probably don't have that exactly right but it's along those lines.
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:03 AM
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9. My bet is that's only going to fool people who want to be fooled.
It should be debunked, of course. I just don't believe most people will fall for that nonsense.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:02 AM
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31. Unfortunately, a lot of people will fall for it. They fell for the switf-boating of Kerry.
Obama is not my first choice, but I'll be damned if I see racist bigoted crap spewed about any candidate and stand silent. Anyone who brings this up to me is going to get a strong response.

Racist tripe, that's all this is.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:04 AM
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10. You're exactly right on your summation.
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:05 AM
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11. Oh for crying out loud. What BS. The sad thing is that
people will believe it. My F-I-L asked Mr MB this morning if Obama was a muslim. Maybe I should see if he received that email too.
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:30 AM
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26. my friends told me that Obama was Muslim last night....
And i asked them where they got this information and they said Email.....I set them straight with the NY TImes story about his religion and schooling...
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:09 AM
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17. Here it is — and SNOPES has verified it as FALSE:
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:12 AM
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20. Thanks for this link. n/t
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NoBorders Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 09:57 AM
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4. If it were me
I would respond to the group, perhaps including the link to snopes.com which in fact lists the rumor as FALSE.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 09:58 AM
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5. Send it to snopes if they don't already have it! nt
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:09 AM
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18. They've already debunked it:
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:16 AM
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25. Oh no, not THAT!!
Sheeesh. I swear "Muslim" is the new "Communist."

I have a neighbor who's not a stupid man, yet he admits he's uncomfortable with Obama because of the IDEA that he's a Muslim, even though he KNOWS it's not so. Similarly, he's uncomfortable with Clinton because she's a woman, even though he says he KNOWS it shouldn't be an issue.

He knows things are wrong but goes with them anyway. Go figure.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:03 AM
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32. I'm sure that he's "uncomfortable" with gay people, too. And non-Christians.
Your neighbor will vote Republican, of course.
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:47 AM
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27. I didn't know Barack Obama was a Jr.
You learn all kinds of things at Snopes.
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CPschem Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:00 AM
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6. reply to everyone listed
and give the the real snopes link debunking the email. Then tell them how pathetic people are who feel the need to write and distribute these lies.
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:07 AM
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14. You have the right idea.....
and flood their emails with actual fact.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:48 AM
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29. then put them on a porn bomb spam list
:rofl:
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:04 PM
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33. ..
:spray:

Now THAT is a plan....

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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:16 PM
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35. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!~!!!!!
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 12:17 PM by youthere
And in a reply ALL TELL them you did it, adding "Since it's clear you like GARBAGE I thought I'd help"
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:06 AM
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12. Reply to everyone down the line,
I did that once and pissed off a load of fundies. :D
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:06 AM
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13. Good ideas, all. Will do when I'm calmed down. Right now, I
just need to go find a cigarette. I know I have one hidden somewhere. I hate these people.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:08 AM
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16. Huckabee's cult-like followers will push this e-mail campaign
into overdrive, now that they see Obama as Kaptain Kool-Aid's biggest likely obstacle on the road to the White House!!

Obama better be prepared to get in front of this crap in a big hurry and not let himself get swift-boated like JK did...
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:13 AM
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22. Huckabee's? Try closer to home; it's already been done. nt
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:12 AM
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19. PolitiFact rates it as "pants on fire" WRONG
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:15 AM
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24. All good advice for you here. Believe me, this is just the beginning.
Calm down and form a game plan for future emails. They seem to be replacing the push/polls somewhat. Personally, I'd rather this BS be spread via email because we have a chance to refute them. Push/poll phone calls don't give us that option.

BTW, it won't matter WHO the Dem candidate is, as I've said many times before, if they can't find any real dirt on them, they'll just make stuff up!
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:48 AM
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28. had to laugh in 2004 ... some irate moron sent a LTTE pointing out that
Kerry was "bearing false witness" against Bush ... for lying about why we had to go to war with Iraq ...

Seems those "bible-thumpers" should actually read the bible, and do some research before they spout their venom ...
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:14 PM
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34. FORWARD IT TO THE CAMPAIGN>>>>
and make sure you highlight the contact information of the original sender. They can handle it from there. Then send the email back with a "Reply ALL" stating how you did just that. Be sure to copy the campaign office with your reply too.
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