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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:21 AM
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People, John Edwards is right about Hillary...
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 11:22 AM by Labors of Hercules
She is a part of a grungy, corporate regime machine that the American people are becoming thoroughly disgusted by (because they know whose interests it really represents, and it aint ours). She will not be able to shed that monster because it is blatant in every facet of her campaign...

Imagine a giant parade float: Hillary standing on top of an enormous mechanical flowerbed being pulled by a 30 ton truck, all of which is controlled by thousands of paid people, while she waves at us from on top.

If she could get off the damn thing and just walk among the spectators... ah... but what's the use?

Her machine is becoming her undoing.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:24 AM
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1. Interesting that it isn't the new frontrunner you're attacking
Fascinating, even.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:25 AM
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2. Well said, thanks.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:25 AM
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3. It HAS become her undoing
I just keep on laughing to myself because of all the BS polls that were shoved in our faces by her supporters. I called them BS without having the solid evidence based on a simple smell test damn if I wan't right.

Now I think she would be a competant president as her husband was. She would do a damn good job...but a return to the past is not "progress".
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GainesT1958 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:25 AM
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4. I think many people are turned off...
By the fact that she acts as though she's already president..and aloof. We've had enough of aloofness; it's time for a "peoples' president" again. And that was the drawing card for both Obama and Edwards in Iowa. I've got a feeling it will be in New Hampshire and elsewhere, too.

Change is on its way!:D

B-)
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LeFleur1 Donating Member (973 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:39 AM
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9. I Hope
I sincerely hope that change is on the way. I hope voters are not blinded by personalities, but demand answers. I hope America survives this terrible time by electing SOMEONE who can't be bought and won't give in to special interests in any way. (and I include religious zealots here). I hope someone is elected who really believes in the Constitution of the United States of America.
I hope someone is elected who is not afraid to actually present a plan for change.

As to the bipartisonship being touted by reporter, KING, on MSNBC, there can only be bipartisonship if all parties agree to work together. When one bully party pouts and insists on beating to death anyone who disagrees, when they intimidate and override while those weaker just cringe and allow it, there is no bipartisonship, and unless those bullies are thrown out nothing will change. Maybe the only thing that can put the congress on the right track is an all out war on these bullies by the people. Certainly the media won't report the real news. They like to sit around and use their ESP to guess what the future will bring. That means the people will have to find out who is really causing the problems and throw them out. I hope it doesn't take more effort than they (the voters) are willing to put forth to get to the truth.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:29 AM
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5. Hercules, what corporation gave Clinton what exactly, and what exactly did they get in return?
Edwards seems a little vague on that. Can you give the answer?
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:31 AM
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7. http://www.opensecrets.org
Research.

http://opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?cycle=2008

You too, can do research! Imagine that.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:42 AM
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10. So, what coporation got what for their bribes?
Edwardians too seem rather vague on that.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:47 AM
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:52 AM
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14. Your link, like the rhetoric of Edwards, doesn't answer the question.
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 12:09 PM by MethuenProgressive
He accuses "corporate Democrats" of being owned by the people who bribed Obama and Clinton.
So it should be simple, even for you, to answer this simple question:
"What corporation gave Obama and Clinton what exactly, and what exactly did they get in return?"
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:30 AM
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6. Yeppers...
...and I love that photo of JRE.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:33 AM
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8. Her machine ROFL
Edwards didn't accept lobbyist money in his quest for the senate either, but that didn't stop him from voting for the bankrupcy bill, the China Trade Deal, H1-B visas, Yucca Mtn., and it certainly didn't stop him from co-sponsoring Lieberman's IWR. All talk, no record that backs it up.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:43 AM
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11. Bingo...
You will be ignored however...
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:56 AM
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15. "Edwards didn't accept lobbyist money" - um, not excactly.
He didn't take "Washington" lobbyist money. He thinks there's a difference. :eyes:
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:51 AM
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13. DU-er David Zephyr wrote this nearly a year ago
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 11:55 AM by rocknation
Hillary! Fire Your "Oldie But Goodie" Back-Up Band. Get Your Own Band!

...Hillary...needs her very own band now...She's the diva up front at the microphone and when she's on stage, she should not have the haggard, old faces of Carville, Paul Begala and Terry McAuliffe behind her strumming "Bill's Oldies But Goodies"...Hillary needs to release her own CD with her own new music and lyrics, her own rhythm, her own vocals, and for God's sake, with a brand-spanking new back-up band that rocks.

...(Barack Obama is) not stupid enough to be seen continually playing "the oldies" to a dated beat and with a bunch of has-beens...And if you haven't noticed, his concerts are packing them in...

...Where is the hot radical chick...who starred in the Watergate Hearings when she was just out of college? Where is the very original thinker that helped found the Children's Defense Fund and changed the way that women and children are regarded in this nation? Hillary Rodham didn't have...Carville, Begala or McAuliffe backing up her back then. And she shouldn't now.

David Zephyr,
:yourock:
rocknation


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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:56 AM
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16. Hillary ALWAYS has given me that uncomfortable feeling of being lied to.
She is just a bit over the top on her attempts to be oh, so charming..and the I just do NOT trust her. What comes out of her mouth? Well, her actions sure as hell do not match. IMO, she is Bush Lite.

JMHO
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:03 PM
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17. Hillary represents corporations not me, not you, not us.

WE the People, god damnit

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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:15 PM
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18. Really?
List any of her votes that indicate that. List any of her votes that are worse than Edwards' or Obama's.
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