Any Edwards supporters here explain why Edwards didn't congratulate Obama on his Iowa win?

Last night did I miss it? Maybe I'm wrong.

Very poor form.

that turns me off to Obama every time I try to warm to him. It seems you have to hold your nose and ignore his supporters in order to form an opinion of the man himself.

speech like Hillary did.

I am in no mood for ANYONE to tell me how I SHOULD fucking feel

get off your fucking high horse and focus on some fucking legitimate fucking issues

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Cheer up. :hi:

Any goodwill that Obama is able to build on his own accord is instantly snuffed out by his more rabid supporters.

In Obama-land, if Edwards had congratulated Obama for winning in his speech, it still wouldn't have been "enough" according to this supporters. A marching band, song by Amy Winehouse, and anecdotes by Mary Matlin would have been more appropriate to mark the glorious ocassion of the win.

after a primary (or caucus) vote. I love John Edwards so I prefer to think that he just overlooked it...

Never - Edwards is just craven and selfish, and his hair told him not to congratulate Obama. /sarcasm

could factor into his lapse. It happens...

...to congratulate him isn't enough? Would you like him to post the call on YouTube or something for your own personal
reassurance? I don't mean to sound snotty, but releasing a statement saying that he called Obama and congratulated him is good enough for me, and probably should be for anyone else. He also gave props to Biden and Dodd, which he didn't have to do. That not classy enough for you?

like Hillary was smart enough to do during hers.

I agree that it seems ungracious not to have spared three seconds in a congratulatory salute, but good lord, why belabor the point? Obama's supporters can have their (well-deserved) end-zone wiggle without it.

If we're reading the tea leaves for character indications, voting records count for much, much more--or should.

this is really a game of pin the tail on the donkey

don't you understand what is really important?

B-)

Obama does not need Edwards' to congratulate Obama publicly. Edwards was talking to the press and to his own campaign workers. It is enough if he congratulated Obama in private. We do not know what was said in the privacy of their conversation. If Edwards did not feel like congratulating Obama, that is fine with me. They are both good candidates. Obama won the Iowa caucus not the candidacy.

You are trying to make something out of nothing.

Hillary did it and looked like the bigger person for it.

about the conduct of people you beat.

winner, regardless of party.

You'd find something wrong with his tone of voice, or his eye contact or some other crap. Edwards called Obama up and congratulated him at the first opportunity he had, and he wasn't even "required" to do that. This primary race has gotten ugly and ugly things have been done and said by all three leading campaigns about each other. I don't think as people they are even obliged to be polite to each other at this point.

This politics, not debate class. It's gonna get worse, not better. Get used to it and grow a thicker skin.

Edwards didn't. He was too busy crowing about beating Hillary by 1% after campaigning in IA for YEARS. Edwards should stop the "angry man" act already.

:rofl:

That's about as good as it gets.

What do you expect, a free shoe shine? :eyes:

He should've done it publicly...to look gracious or to at least aknowledge the win.
Hillary did it and looked like the bigger person for it.

You might ask how Obama is going to repay all those lobbyists who've donated money to his campaign. They're going to want something for all that money, and Obama is going to be in a compromising position when they call in their favor.

We need real change in America, not more of the same. Hillary and Barack represent more of the same. They owe lobbyists and big corporations BIG TIME. How are they going to fix the problems, largely due to those corporations, when they owe them so much?

You're wasting your time and everyone else's with this pitiful attempt to make someone look bad. Edwards called Obama personally first chance he got, which means a heck of a lot more than one line in a speech.

Get over it and move on to something IMPORTANT.

Get your information straight. And as you should know, Edwards was not going to accept matching funds until he couldn't raise as much as he had hoped.

Obama’s Refusal of Lobbyists’ Money Has its Limits

by Dan Morain

WASHINGTON - While pledging to turn down donations from lobbyists themselves, Sen. Barack Obama raised more than $1 million in the first three months of his presidential campaign from law firms and companies that have major lobbying operations in the nation’s capital.Portraying himself as a new-style politician determined to reform Washington, Obama makes his policy clear in fundraising invitations, stating that he takes no donations from “federal lobbyists.” His aides announced last week he was returning $43,000 to lobbyists who donated to his campaign.

But the Illinois Democrat’s policy of shunning money from lobbyists registered to do business on Capitol Hill does not extend to lawyers whose partners lobby there...

(It also doesn't include the spouses of lobbyists, etc, etc. In short, it's a show policy.)

Edwards is a hypocrite who gave lobbyists' money back when he was caught.

Obama, Cozy with Corporate Lobbyists, Risks Much with Edwards Attack

By Christine Escobar, HuffingtonPost.com. Posted December 31, 2007.

http://www.alternet.org/election08/72079/

I still haven't figured out what people do when they chose their candidate but it sure looks like they have very facts in hand when they do it.

Accepting a candidate's representations at face value is a bit absurd. I fully expect that both Edwards and Obama have lobbyists supporting them.

By Scott Helman, Globe Staff
Using campaign appearances, e-mails to supporters, and Iowa TV ads, Illinois Senator Barack Obama has repeatedly reminded voters that his presidential campaign does not accept contributions from lobbyists or political action committees, casting his decision as a noble departure from the ways of Washington.
He hit the theme hard again in Tuesday's Democratic debate in Chicago as he sought to capitalize on rival Hillary Clinton's remark last weekend that taking lobbyists' cash is acceptable because they "represent real Americans."
"The people in this stadium need to know who we're going to fight for," Obama said at Soldier Field. "The reason that I'm running for president is because of you, not because of folks who are writing big checks, and that's a clear message that has to be sent, I think, by every candidate."
But behind Obama's campaign rhetoric about taking on special interests lies a more complicated truth. A Globe review of Obama's campaign finance records shows that he collected hundreds of thousands of dollars from lobbyists and PACs as a state legislator in Illinois, a US senator, and a presidential aspirant.
In Obama's eight years in the Illinois Senate, from 1996 to 2004, almost two-thirds of the money he raised for his campaigns -- $296,000 of $461,000 -- came from PACs, corporate contributions, or unions, according to Illinois Board of Elections records. He tapped financial services firms, real estate developers, healthcare providers, oil companies, and many other corporate interests, the records show.

http://jjb.yuku.com/topic/213794

That's speaking to him directly. That's enough for me.

Take the fucking win and stfu.

Sounds like a smack in the face ..... Hillary's! :wtf:

Chapel Hill, North Carolina – Senator Edwards released the following statement after calling Senator Obama to personally congratulate him on his victory in the Iowa caucuses:

"Earlier tonight, I called Senator Obama to congratulate him on his victory in the Iowa caucuses. Tonight's results shows how clearly the American people are sick of the status quo and ready for a president who will fight for the bold change America needs.

"I would also like to extend my best wishes to Senators Biden and Dodd and thank them for their service to our country. They ran impressive campaigns focused on the real issues that matter most to hard-working families, and I have faith that they will continue to work to build the better America we all believe in."

to kiss up to us Edwards supporters now than try to bring us in to the fold later.

:sarcasm:

Give me a break. Sore winners are not cool.

congratulate your opponent for beating them, though. Unclassy move on his part.

Nana, Nana, Boo, Boo! I guess Edwards supporters show write him and tell him to send an "engraved apology" for NOT congratulating him the way YOU seem to think he should.

I believe Edwards called Musharaf about Bhutto too when others made public statements.

Did I count wrong? Was it a hundred times?

Some of the Obama supporters are extremely pissy today for some reason. Maybe they stayed up too late last night.

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Stick it where the sun don't shine!

which is what he should be focused on.

No one congratulates the winner in the first stage of the Tour De France.

Its one of the reasons people don't get excited about Edwards. He's a phony. I live here in NC, And you wouldn't know he was from here. There is so little excitement for him

Then you'll want a plaintiff's lawyer, which is what Edwards did for decades. He earned that money by working damned hard.

He is the only candidate other than Kucinich talking in DETAIL about pocketbook issues and the economy and jobs and such. Nobody else is talking about it. Everybody else is taking lobbyists' money and pretending the economy is great for the rest of us because they and the politician/pundit class is making lots of money.

I don't think Edwards is phony. I think he's got conviction. I don't think he could have fought big companies on behalf of grievously injured and dead people for years unless he had that fire in his belly and that conviction that he is doing the right thing.

You don't know much about the legal profession, do you?

If you're a decent, respectful person, you congratulate the winner in the race. Yeah, I know, it's a couple fucking words you have to utter....but, if you don't, in 99% of cases, you're an ass. Anyone with a half a goddamn soul would at least congratulate the winner. Neither Edwards or his wife had the courage to admit they lost.

Maybe he'll apologize later for his mistake. :eyes:

Hillary did. Wow, was that ever hard... :shrug:

:puke:

It was the Iowa Caucus, not the November election. In any case, he DID congratulate him. This is beyond petty and annoying, your candidate won the caucus, can't you( Obama supporters) be happy for a few minutes?

Chapel Hill, North Carolina – Senator Edwards released the following statement after calling Senator Obama to personally congratulate him on his victory in the Iowa caucuses:

"Earlier tonight, I called Senator Obama to congratulate him on his victory in the Iowa caucuses. Tonight's results shows how clearly the American people are sick of the status quo and ready for a president who will fight for the bold change America needs.

"I would also like to extend my best wishes to Senators Biden and Dodd and thank them for their service to our country. They ran impressive campaigns focused on the real issues that matter most to hard-working families, and I have faith that they will continue to work to build the better America we all believe in."

http://www.johnedwards.com/news/press-releases/20080104-edwards-congratulates/

That "released" statement was obviously damage control.

Geez. Get a grip.

It's great that your candidate won - why worry about rubbing the face of others in it? It's unbecoming, and would make me think that I'm responding to a troll if most Obama supporters weren't so nit picky.

But Edwards is my first choice if I had to choose.

:)

He released a statement and called Obama. That's fine to me. No need to nitpick over something like this.

I got nothing against Obama, I'd gladly vote for him if it came to that, but....

I think maybe we ought to take up a collection to buy jenmito a tall glass of STFU.

Jeez. Your candidate won, and deservedly so, and you want to carp about someone who didn't publicly genuflect? Wow. Just wow.

BTW, sincere congratulations to Obama for his victory, from an Edwards supporter. Not what the OP demanded, but hey, best I can do.

to DU. You brighten everyone's life with your joyful postings!

and the need for Universal healthcare?

Just a wild guess.

:shrug:

...(coincidence?) ... that kind of talk about the plight of the poor is going to be reaching a lot more folks as they become "the poor".