As a Hillary supporter..I am actually glad she lost Iowa: Here's why

1. Finally..the media will let go of this inevitability meme that has been the CW.
2. She has to fight harder..if she can come back, she gets the nomination..if she can't, she doesn't deserve to win.
3. Obama will now get the "front runner" treatment, which means closer scrutiny.
4. Edwards will now turn his attention to Obama..if he thinks he can win NH over Hillarys corpse, he is sadly mistaken. My personal opinion is that Edward relentless attacks on Hillary were one of the factors in her defeat. Will Obama be able to handle this? Who knows..we will see.
You will note..that I have gone out of my way not to attack anyone in this topic..
save the empty slogans and attacks for another thread and try to comment with substance..
I think Hillary will rise to the occasion..if she can't she does not deserve my support..
we will see..

No dem since Carter won Iowa and went on to win the GE.

It's kind of a curse.

Anyway, you are right, now you will see what she is made of. If she can't beat a rookie, she isn't ready for the finals, anyway.

regardless of a previous win in Iowa.

That is going to leave a mark!

You missed the point entirely.

Clinton was the only nominee who lost Iowa. He won the GE.

Doh!

Hill or Edwards.

The words used to describe Obama compared to those used to describe Hillary or Edwards makes that pretty clear.

then I'll be happy too. lol!

I am a Hillary supporter, especially after the debates. Obama just hasn't blown me away yet like everyone else. I am keeping my options open, but i lean strongly on Hillary. I just don't want another republican touching the oval office. the stench in there after Bush leaves will be be so bad, its going to be hard for either one of them when they enter office.

She is a fighter and a leader...so if anyone can come back she can...but it is gonna be tough!

to a lot of people, I think she comes across as kind of arrogant, and the front-runner status onrly reinforced that image. Now that she's the underdog, people might consider her differently. Also, yes, Obama needs to undergo closer scrutiny, though I don't know if there's enough time between now and NH for that to happen adequately. Either way, as a Hillary supporter, I'm very optimistic about NH and the primaries in general.

she is the poster lady for the Clinton dynasty - the people are sick of dynasties and religion (so Huck has no hope in "hell" to get elected)and she voted for Iraq-she should have never done that.

One Clinton not a blood relation has held the presidency. Hillary is the man's wife, not his sister. She has one child, a daughter, who has shown no interest in politics for her own life (and who could blame her).

So this "dynasty" consists of a woman running for the same job her husband once held. A WOMAN. Running for a MAN's job. Which the misuse of the word "dynasty" obscures. Which is the goal.

It's a very successful meme. I hear it here twenty times a minute and now Robert Parry has disgraced himself with it.

Please tell me how this is different in any way from the "invented the internet" slander against Gore?

were in office for a long time (she was a very active First Lady-I happen to like that) as a team, the Clintons, especially Bill, have been associated with Poppy Bush and George in a more friendly manner than might be expected from Bill and Hillary-- both families have occupied the the WH for long stretches, people want big change-certainly younger voters do. So, as you can see, my take on dynasty is not technical.

The "Dynasty" dig is just another piece of right-wing spin -- a way to attack Hillary. And, mark you, the same people who now view a Clinton "dynasty" with alarm, had not one word of warning to say when George W., the first-born son of the previous President, who was also President and CIA Director, and who was himself the son of a powerful U.S. Senator, was running.

Don't do the right-wing's work for them. Stop this Limbaugh-like "We-don't-want-a-dynasty" spin.

...make lemonade!

spelled trouble for her opponents.

1. Does loss of this "inevitability" help her or hurt her? It could be a little of each. After all, there's probably a fairly large group of people who didn't think Obama could win, but who are now questioning that. Loss of the inevitability factor could cut both ways.

2. Totally agree. I expect Hillary to come out of the gates swinging. She has to, and she's foolish if she doesn't.

3. New Hampshire's only four days away, and the other primaries follow swiftly after. I don't know if there's time to give Obama closer scrutiny than he's already gotten -- deep digging requires weeks or even months of effort.

4. Even if Edwards attacks Obama, he'll still probably come in third in NH. After that, he's out, and Edwards is no longer a factor in South Carolina, which will be a major battleground.

Anyway, point being, Iowa definitely made it harder for Hillary to win, not easier. But you'd have to be an idiot to count her out. She can still pull off a NH win nicely. One big question -- what happens after Edwards drops? Do his supporters go for Obama or Hillary? I know Edwards supports don't want to hear this, but he put a ton of time and effort into Iowa, without the ground support or cash that Obama and Hillary have. I don't think he's long for the race. When he drops out, and where his would-be supporters go, could be a deciding factor.

that I go Obama I will go Hillary. Didn't like the loop hole ridden NAFTA and a few other things that Bill left us with and I think she may be able to see now (after the fact) how NAFTA only hurt the american worker. She will be my candidate if JRE drops out, but not until.

called a racist by obama folks because you said he will come under more scrutiny...WOW! such a racist comment! NOT

I will support HRC till the last dog dies...

though Hillary didn't seem too upset by the results.
I don't think she needs to win New Hampshire, just has to be close.
I like Edwards, but I think HRC will rise to the occassion.

I didn't expect the wonderful speech that Hill gave. It was grand, and made me very proud and determined that I will swing some voters her way. I hope she prevails. I do believe she is the best candidate for the job. As icing on the cake, it is time for the US to have a female president.

The close race brought us an eleventh-hour pledge from Edwards. I, for one, am looking forward to seeing the Big Three forced to address real issues. Clinton, finally, is going to have to work for that nomination.

Hillary now has to really fight to win and this is good for her to show she can comeback to win. She willl be a stronger candidate if she can overcome this setback.

The Clintons always do best when they're the underdog. IA is always blown out of proportion, but when the dust finally settles, the nominee is usually someone other than the one chosen in that state.

Either way, I will fight for her in NJ until the end.

I have a much more down to earth name for it.

you're guy hasn't actually won yet..

I should be sad when he wins and happy if he loses.

:rofl:

He got knocked down for a few days and then came right back.

He'll do just fine as "front runner".

Just saying!