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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 04:01 PM
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"No, it's not broken, why fix it?"
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 04:11 PM by Labors of Hercules
"Obama said he saw no reason to revamp his campaign for the new realities of New Hampshire: 'No, it's not broken, why fix it?'" http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080104/ap_po/campaign_rdp

While I don't disagree completely, (after all, whatever "it" was seemed to work well in Iowa), I'm still missing any real substance from Barack's campaign...

For Example: I still can't figure out what it is he wants us to hope for... Hope that he will be able to make the changes that need to be made to correct 8 years of the Texan from Hell? Hope that he might fulfill a promise of global leadership for broad and far-reaching changes? Exactly what change does he represent and how will he accomplish it?

He is campaigning well on a general "RA-RA, hope, change" meme, but what has he said in his campaign to prove he is the one most willing and capable to fight the entrenched powers that have been making increasingly more destructive decisions to benefit only themselves?

The simplest criteria for the person we need in the White House is the one willing and able to take the spoils of government from those who are in direct control of our economic engine and hand them back to the people. Obama has yet to prove to me that he is willing and able to meet that criteria.

John Edwards has proven it.

I'm not sure if it's the same for many people in New Hampshire, or other early primary states, but if it is, Obama had better step away from the fluff and start proving his case as well.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 04:07 PM
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1. I agree... Hope doesn't fill a starving belly... The policies are not
in depth enough and I do not like the people he will surround himself with for advisors... Same ole' just another face. Obama is like this fad thing... an obsession like Britney Spears or Paris Hilton. He makes great t.v., but even the reality shows are fake. I would like to see more from him on policies that are going to work for my family.. because right now, they don't.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 04:09 PM
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2. The two messages aren't mutually exclusive...
America needs some serious group therapy, and the corporations who have most of the wealth and influence - do most of the damage and have the least amount of accountability - need a good spanking.

All these culture wars are a distraction from the fact that the GOP is the corporate party and the only way they can thrive in a Democracy is through deception. Both candidates want to remove that veil. The question is which message will bring enough people together to fight corporatism, and who is most able to lead the fight. If we're going to be successful, America needs to wake the fuck up. Both Obama and Edwards are setting out to do that - each in their own way.
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 04:13 PM
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4. Obama's way just sort of leaves off the specifics...
And hasn't really made it clear (at least to me) that removing the veil is his goal.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 04:19 PM
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6. Edwards' message is right on the mark
for us. But last night Obama has shown he can reach a wider audience than the 15% of the population who normally votes Democratic. He may be short on substance, but he has the ear of many people who tend to tune out all things political.

I'm still undecided. Tomorrow's debate should be interesting.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 04:12 PM
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3. Do you think he's onto something with the hope-change message?
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 04:13 PM by Bleachers7
Putting aside the issues for a mintute. Have you thought about why that has been succesful for him? Rucky said something about Obama recognizing this country needs group therapy. I think he's onto something. Obama might actually be good enough on the issues for people. Also, people might be so disgusted, that they don't support Obama based on issues as you think of them. Their issue is a broken government and a broken nation. That's what I think Obama is tapping into.
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 04:42 PM
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9. Sure, and perhaps that's works for now...
I like Edwards for speaking with conviction and in concrete terms. If Obama did the same, I would feel better about him winning the nomination.
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 04:17 PM
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5. For this I shaved my legs?
I've always felt letdown after hearing Obama speak, or reading his speeches. No real substance that I could see. Too many generalities, with few, if any, specifics.

He seems a nice person, and I realize that many people find him charismatic. That's enough for some people, but not for me.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 04:21 PM
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7. Read this anti-war speech and tell me he's not specific.
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 04:25 PM
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8. Wikisource does not have a text with this exact name. nt
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