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CK_John (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 05:56 PM Original message |
Edwards message is too abstract. He against corporations, big deal. Is there any business that |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
1. Being against the parasitic corporate oligarchy is not abstract, it is necessary. |
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CK_John (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. But there no other form of business anymore, we are never going to be a mom & pop economy again. |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Are you in favor of mega corporations raping the environment and workers for profit? |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 06:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. You miss the point by a mile. |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 06:23 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Howe is that a mile away from opposing the parasitic corporations? |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. I was responding to CK John. |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. I disagree. The whole "corporate personhood" lie is a legal structure that must be repealed. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 07:02 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. I'm not sure what you point is... |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 07:04 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. This is a terminology tarpit... |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 07:07 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Yes, only living human beings are legal persons. |
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CK_John (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. I recall corporations are authorized in the constitution. n/t |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Actually, they are completely absent from the Constitution. n/t |
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CK_John (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. I think your wrong, but my OP is about Edwards and his vague message. Many of the |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. I'm not wrong. Corporations are not mentioned in the constitution. |
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CK_John (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Obligation of Contracts is the basis for corp. n/t |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 09:16 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. No it isn't. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 06:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. Most of us will never work for big business again |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
21. With enough fatalists like you, that statement can become true. n/t |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Being against them in the abstract is nice, but what is the plan for |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. The plan is not to replace them it is to REGULATE them. |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #10 |
24. You are a person of few words, they are regulated. So what |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 07:02 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. The ray gun revolution started the deregulation of corporate power. DimSon |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 07:19 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. I'll try a differtent way, what are the regulations that Edwards is |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 07:24 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. For one thing Edwards proposes that CEO pay be limited to 40 times the average workers pay. |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 08:46 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. Government control of private earning potential will never pass. nt |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 11:21 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. Funny the government controlled my job right off to India. If you are some kind of |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 11:56 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Just stating facts, all I hear from Edwards supporters are |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. They are regulated |
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Inspired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
14. Thank you, you are correct. |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
4. CK I'm not sure if speaking out for the poor to have access to |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 06:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. The 401k's will be worthless if the corporations that drive them are demonized |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. so explain why MORE regulated European Corporations are doing well |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. better than ours? nt |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 07:13 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. How good does a corporation have to be? |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 08:43 PM Response to Reply #22 |
44. my best fund in my 401k this year is INTERNATIONAL Stock Fund |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 09:19 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Must be that overseas corp are just flat better performers. |
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CK_John (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. No 401K, I never paid anyone to manage my money. I would like a good |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
5. He is against corporate GOVERNMENT control... |
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lwcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
8. As opposed to Obama's message, which is simply wrong |
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fuzzy otter pop (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
9. if this is to abstract for you, might i suggest |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
15. It's more that he is in favor of supporting workers and removing the power that corps have attained. |
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CK_John (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 06:26 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. That maybe what he wants to do, if so, he needs a better message.n/t |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #18 |
30. Given that is exactly what he says... |
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frazzled (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
19. He'll huff and hel'll puff and he'll blow that house down |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
25. Coming from him, it is not abstract |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
31. John Edwards: "Universal Health care--non negotiable." How abstract is that? NT |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 11:22 PM Response to Reply #31 |
54. snap. :D |
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Yukari Yakumo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
38. In short... |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. He finnish ahead of HRC |
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Baconfoot (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
41. Baloney |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
48. Sprint-Nextel Wireless |
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CK_John (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 09:47 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Sprint is a corp that started out as Souther Pacific railroad and Nextel is a corp |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 09:59 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. I was just being a little silly |
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CK_John (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 10:31 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Yea, I am still uptight over last night. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 10:40 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. I understand |
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Hieronymus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
56. Just support Hillary and let it go. She's for the corporations too. It's ... |
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