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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 06:22 PM
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Edwards Campaign Asserts Obama Once A Sellout To Corporate Interests
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/04/edwards-campaign-asserts-_n_79790.html

Edwards Campaign Asserts Obama Once A Sellout To Corporate Interests

Roughly twelve hours after a second-place finish in the Iowa caucus, Sen. John Edwards' campaign went on the attack against the winner, Sen. Barack Obama, asserting that the Illinois Democrat was once a sellout to corporate interests.

In an appearance on MSNBC, David Bonior, Edwards' campaign manager, ripped into Obama's record on health care from the time when he served in the Illinois State Senate.

"Barack Obama's kind of change is where you sit down and you cut a deal with the corporate world," Bonior said. "If you look at his record in Illinois when he had a major -- sponsored a major health bill that's what he did. He watered down with the help of the corporate lobbyist and they got a weak product out of that."

MSNBC host Joe Scarborough interjected: "Are you saying that Barack Obama is a sellout to corporate interests?"

Bonior responded, "He was four years ago in Illinois. All you have to do is look at the legislation I'm referring to."

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The health care legislation that Bonior singled out has already been a topic of much coverage. The legislation, which Obama helped shepherd through the Illinois State Senate in 2003, helped expand coverage to 70,000 children and 84,000 adults, according to Labolt. It also expanded and made permanent Illinois' KidCare program, raising the eligibility from 185 percent to 200 percent of the federal poverty level.

But as the Boston Globe reported on September 23, 2007, in the process of crafting the legislation, Obama consulted with "insurers and their lobbyists" and amended the bill "more to their liking."

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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 06:28 PM
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1. How many have coverage due to Edwards' efforts?
So far, he's down by 70,000 children and 84,000 adults, in one state.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 06:33 PM
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4. Also, the loathesome Omnibus bill in 2004 (Medicare) passed because John
couldn't be bothered to stop campaigning - the 2 Johns that is - considering they lacked 2 votes to block it.
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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 06:30 PM
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2. K & R , not only that, O. has taken lobbyist, pac money, & lies about it
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 06:35 PM by kelligesq
today I heard him say he never takes lobbyist or pac money

Obama is more of the same, just in a different color.

I'll stick with Edwards. A man with guts to go it with just the people's contributions and matching funds...the way it should be.

Problem is for more than 6 months Obama has been signing up youth in colleges, In Iowa 57% between 17 and 30 put him over the top

If anyone here knows any college students, ask if they would do a day of registering to vote and handing out Edwards info while they're wearing Edwards signs and buttons?

We could help Edwards that way.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 06:34 PM
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6. Whereas Edwards's PAC headed by his campaign manager doesn't funnel money
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 06:35 PM by robbedvoter
to his campaign :eyes:
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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 06:37 PM
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7. Yeah? got a link to that info to make sure its true? n/t
Go Johnny Go
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 06:41 PM
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9. Johnny stammered it in an interview - Face the Nation?
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 06:42 PM by robbedvoter
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:24 PM
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14. You are perpetrating a lie.
There is no PAC managed by Edwards' campaign manager. One of Edwards' former campaign managers manages a 527 for a labor union. Since when should a real Democrat refuse the help of a union. And how is a union to give help other than through a 527. Your lies are vicious.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 06:31 PM
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3. Whereas Edwards was NEVER ever a sellout - oh, wait - he was!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2934244
But hey, it's not like people got killed because of his actions....Oh, wait! They did!:P
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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 06:38 PM
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8. Oh yes, you mean the vote Obama skipped - n/t
among the many others he also skipped
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 06:47 PM
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12. Nice try, but when Edwards was selling the war, Obama opposed it - not a senator then
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 06:48 PM by robbedvoter
but went on record with his position. Again, Edwards not just voting for war, PROMOTING IT!(and no apology in sight for that)
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:25 PM
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15. Has Obama ever voted against a war bill?
And if so, did he then vote for the next war bill that replaced it?
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 06:33 PM
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5. Its not like Edwards voted for the IWR is it /nt
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 06:44 PM
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10. It looks like the old bunker mentality has set in on Johnny.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 06:49 PM
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13. Edwards is now like the worst of Howard Dean with none of Dean's many redeeming qualitites
as a POTUS candidate.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 06:45 PM
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11. Obama made kids insurance permanent - THE HORROR
He talks to insurance companies and lobbyists - and STILL gets exactly what he wanted to begin with. That's how he does it.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:39 PM
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16. The low-down on Illinois health insurance
As of 2008, all residents will be required to obtain health plans through their employers, public health programs, or private insurance. Everyone will be forced to find affordable health coverage on their own, and all employers will have to provide it.

Well, fat chance.

Not to be pessimistic, but if Illinois is anything like the rest of the country, health insurance rates will simply be too high for many employers or private individuals to afford. As it is, in most states a family will pay $7,000 a year for basic insurance. That's an increase in 80% over the last 10 years. Meanwhile, the minimum wage hasn't budged in almost that long, making it impossible for hard working Americans to afford their own health coverage.

. . . .

It's sad to hear about what will happen to Illinois health insurance, not just because of changing policy, but because of the struggle that will most certainly come out of it. In the meantime, we will continue to offer the most affordable coverage on the market, and keep an eye out for some better news in the future.

http://www.alliedquotes.com/Resources/Illinois-Health-Insurance.html

You have 4 basic options for obtaining health insurance in Illinois:

1. Private Health Insurance
2. Health Insurance through High-Risk Pools
3. Health Insurance through the Chambers of Commerce
4. Health Insurance through Income Eligible Programs

In Illinois you are not guaranteed the right to buy health insurance. Companies that sell individual health insurance in Illinois are free to turn you down because of your health status and other factors. If you are turned down because of a health condition you may be eligible for the Illinois Comprehensive Health Insurance Plan.

If you are eligible to buy private health insurance you should know that Illinois does not require health insurers in the individual market to sell standardized policies. Health plans can design different policies and you will have to read and compare them carefully.

Once you have health insurance in Illinois your coverage cannot be canceled because you get sick. This is called guaranteed renewability. You have this protection provided that you pay the premiums, do not defraud the company, and, in the case of managed care plans, continue to live in the plan service area. However, guaranteed renewability does not protect you from having your premiums go up at renewal.

http://www.ahirc.org/quickguide_illinois.html

No guaranteed right to buy health insurance under the plan that I presume is the one Obama negotiated in Illinois. Not good enough. By no means good enough. Also, your plan cannot be canceled -- unless you can't pay. Then, of course it can be canceled. Tough luck. That is the major problem with health insurance. You pay and pay and pay and then, when you get sick, can't work and have no income, you can't get health insurance. Apparently Obama's plan did not solve this core problem.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:35 PM
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17. Obama sponsored 233 health care and public health bills in the Illinois Senate




What health care and public health bills did Edwards sponsor?

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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 07:19 AM
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18. Then Edwards should quit
Edwards can't win. If he's going to hang around forever hoping to get a VP slot then he should at least not hurt the viable nominees. What good does Edwards' bashing do anybody but the GOP? For the good of the party, Edwards should quit.
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