Hillary Booed at NH Democratic Party Dinner

I came across this on the web and post this because some wondered if we indeed did hear Boos for Hillary. But this article really saw this as Obama kickin some major ass.

http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/01/hillary_booed_at_nh_democratic.html


January 4, 2008 9:18
Hillary Booed at NH Democratic Party Dinner
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If the New Hampshire Democratic Party’s 100 Club dinner is any bell weather – Barack Obama will handily win here. When Obama, the dinner’s last speaker, took the stage the crowd surged forward chanting “O-bam-a” and “Fired Up, Ready to Go!” So many people pressed toward the stage that an announcer asked people to “please take their seats for safety concerns.”

By comparison Hillary was twice booed. The first time was when she said she has always and will continue to work for "change for you. The audience, particularly from Obama supporters (they were waving Obama signs) let out a noise that sounded like a thousand people collectively groaning. The second time came a few minutes later when Clinton said: "The there are two big questions for voters in New Hampshire. One is: who will be ready to lead from day one? The second," and here Clinton was forced to pause as boos from the crowd mixed with cheers from her own supporters. "Is who can we nominate who will go the distance against the Republicans?”

The dinner held in the Hampshire Dome in Milford is the largest political dinner in New Hampshire history, Republican or Democrat. More than 3,000 people attended.

and some blogger thinks he wrote a big story.

was being in the room in DC when she was booed at Take Back America.

It shows the person had a poor upbringing, because civility is
the symptom of good upbringing by parents.

and it was because she said that it ws the Iraqi's fault that it was all going to crap there...

Obama was magic at TBA, I knew from seeing him that he was something really special...

context is everything.

and Howard Dean and Kucinich too.

But Hillary's appearance was downright bizarre. She brought an entourage that circled the back of the room and played cop while she was speaking. I stood in the back and watched them in action. And remember when Hillary said she knew we didn't like her?

And since progressives are not Stepford wives, we express displeasure.

it is YOUR TURN to speak. Interrupting others by shouting and booing
is crass behavior. Especially if they are also legitimate democrats.

Would it be okay under your manners guidelines to boo an illegitimate Democrat?

That's what the term "class" implies, you know.

Progressives should never use it.

and we were taught by parents to respect every person.
I won't go as far as mahatma Gandhi to turn other cheek,
but I firmly believe respect and civility are like boomrangs.
You get back what you throw.

Not surprising at all.

I hope your life improves.

Mine was the moment my daughter was born.

Perhaps getting a life should be on your "to do" list.

Hillary Clinton's election as the first woman president is just as significant a change in this country's history as Obama's would be.

:eyes:

she'd be the first woman president in this countries' history. Go ahead and roll your eyes at that.

:eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

Check back when she actually wins a primary.

so don't through that "classless" label out their so easily.

Clearly, booing is inappropriate however, there are many immature people in the CLinton camp also.

Here our elected officials boo at each other on the floor of, how to translate, Parliment.

so there's no dynasty and Hillary's never thought of herself as a queen.

when she introduced Bush-like 9/11 fear-mongering into her campaign repertoire:



http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/01/clinton_reaches.html

Given what we've been through as a result of the same BUllSHit tactics, THAT is tacky in a HUGE way. While she isn't nominee, I've never been so disgusted with her as I was when I read those comments. The empress has lost her mask and it certainly isn't pretty underneath.

When you use the term "class," you are perpetuating classism. The term implies that those of higher socio-economic standing are better-behaved and more worthwhile than others.

I wish people (especially progressives) would be a little more aware of that. Personally, I have no "class" nor do I want any. Good manners have nothing to do with economic status.

the concept of good manners.

Which is the same thing. We shouldn't do it. It reinforces the kind of ideas that perpetuate poverty in this country.

an etymological study of the word, but I believe it's commonly used as a colloquialism, such as in classy, class act etc to designate whatever you want it to designate. Superior performance, good manners, etc. etc.

Count me in the "she'll do anything to get elected" category.

Poop Pillary.

You can't be in two places at once, and she tried to. She's high-fived the mega-rich, while telling the poor not to worry. :thumbsdown:

I must have missed that epic moment.

However, her campaign has been about that all along. Why do you think she's doing badly? Do you think it's some secret plot to get her to lose? People are financially strapped right now. Not the rich, they're doing better than ever. The middle class and poor are suffering. Is that the focus of her campaign? Nope. If she loses, it's her own doing and nobody else's.

the middle class to economic viability, something that Edwards' has switched to late in the game.

.. the middle class and the poor are suffering, while the rich have never been better.

Meanwhile, H. Clinton has been busy being photographed with the likes of Milton Friedman, whose philosophy defends the rich getting richer while the poor get poorer. But I'm supposed to think H. Clinton will help the middle class and the poor tho. I think H. Clinton figured that she could get elected if she befriended some right wingers, all the corporates, and the free market lovers. Those who are financially suffering right now are out there not voting for her.

not the middle class. It was personal and the work of his life, although, you'd never have guessed that by looking at what he championed as a senator. What causes did he champion as senator btw? Product liabilty? Anything?

You can use photo ops or anectdotal BS to attack Hillary Clinton, but she did champion health care reform and was smeared and ridiculed for doing it, by the same corporate America that Edwards has been harping on. She did fight for the middle class and women and children, what the hell has Edwards done?

who have been economically hurt by this greedy administration, the poor included.

I'll go give Hillary a call and tell her to pack it up.

.. and with the bankruptcy bill that allows corps to continue to use bankruptcy to their benefit, while diminishing individuals' bankruptcy rights, and they're tired of our constant financial support of corporations which are running this war-for-oil in Iraq, and tired of our taxes bailing out the rich, and they're tired of lots of things, and much more. We don't need a centrist, and we don't need a right winger.

I think the H. Clinton campaign was very ill-advised.

Clinton isn't any more of a centrist than he is, and she's certainly not a RWer. Her voting record is solidly liberal and hardly different than Obama's. Edwards' record is no better for all his fancy populist talk. I don't see a significant difference in the way any one of them would govern.

promises aren't deeds, and I don't have any doubt that Clinton will help the poor as much as Edwards ever could without all the rhetoric. I'm finished. Vote for Edwards, don't vote for Clinton, I don't really care. Nothing I say will ever be enough to change your mind.

:-)

:-)

http://www.johnedwards.com/news/press-releases/20080102-economists/

James K. Galbraith
Lloyd M. Bentsen, Jr. Chair in Government/Business Relations
LBJ School of Public Affairs
The University of Texas at Austin, and
Senior Scholar, Levy Economics Institute

James K. Galbraith holds the Lloyd M. Bentsen, jr. Chair of Government/Business Relations
at the Lyndon B. Johnson School of Public Affairs, the University of Texas at Austin. He is a
Senior Scholar with the Levy Economics Institute, and Chair of the Board of Economists for
Peace and Security, an international association of professional economists.

Galbraith is the author of several hundred scholarly and policy articles. His books are
Balancing Acts: Technology, Finance and the American Future (Basic, 1989), Created
Unequal: The Crisis in American Pay (Free Press, 1998), and Inequality and Industrial Change:
A Global View (Cambridge, 2001), co-edited with Maureen Berner, as well as two textbooks,
The Economic Problem coauthored with Robert L. Heilbroner and Macroeconomics with
William A. Darity, jr.. His recent research on economic inequality has been published in many
professional journals in the United States, Europe, Russia, India and elsewhere. He offers a
regular column in Mother Jones, irregular commentary on Public Radio International’s
Marketplace and occasional columns in the Texas Observer, as well as reviews and comment in
many other publications.

Galbraith holds degrees from Harvard and Yale (Ph.D. in Economics, 1981). He studied
economics as a Marshall Scholar at King's College, Cambridge in 1974-5, and then served on the
staff of the U.S. Congress, including as an economist for the House Banking Committee and
later as Executive Director of the Joint Economic Committee in 1981-82. Among other work at
that time, he was an architect of the modern procedures of congressional monetary policy
oversight. He was a guest scholar at the Brookings Institution in 1985. He served as a Chief
Technical Adviser to the State Planning Commission of China on a United Nations Development
Program project on macroeconomic reform in 1993-1997. He held a Fulbright Distinguished
Visiting Lectureship in China in the summer of 2001, and was named a Carnegie Scholar in
2003.

http://www.newschool.edu/cepa/events/lectures/Bio_JamesGalbraith.pdf

son of the great John Maynard Keynes

John Maynard Keynes, 1st Baron Keynes, CB (pronounced /ˈkeɪnz/ "cains") (5 June 1883 – 21 April 1946) was a British economist whose ideas, called Keynesian economics, had a major impact on modern economic and political theory as well as on many governments' fiscal policies. He advocated interventionist government policy, by which the government would use fiscal and monetary measures to mitigate the adverse effects of economic recessions, depressions and booms. He is one of the fathers of modern theoretical macroeconomics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Maynard_Keynes

or do you only read what helps you to continue to hate Hillary?

And how does she plan to do it while keeping her corporate puppetmasters happy?

that have been swayed by special interest groups. Edwards didn't take money from lobbyist in his quest for the senate, but that didn't stop him from voting for the China Trade Deal, H1-B visas, the Bankrupcy Bill, Yucca Mtn, and it didn't stop him from co-sponsoring Lieberman's IWR.

A complete change of subject, but one that I'm used to from the Clinton folks.

~~~~~~~~

Senator Clinton said and did nothing to prevent the Senate confirmation of John Ashcroft.

Senator Clinton said and did nothing to prevent the Senate confirmation of Alberto Gonzales.

Senator Clinton said and did nothing regarding the failed Senate confirmation of John Bolton.

Senator Clinton voted FOR cloture on the nomination of corrupt corporatist Priscilla Owen, clearing the way for her confirmation to the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals.

Senator Clinton voted FOR cloture on the nomination of unqualified fascist Janice Rogers Brown, clearing the way for her confirmation to the DC Court of Appeals.

Senator Clinton voted FOR cloture on the nomination of religious zealot and homophobe William H. Pryor, clearing the way for his confirmation to the Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals.

Senator Clinton voted FOR cloture on the nomination of John Roberts, clearing the way for his confirmation as Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court.

Senator Clinton said little or nothing during the Senate confirmation of Samuel Alito.

Senator Clinton missed the Senate confirmation vote on Michael Mukasey.

Senator Clinton said little or nothing during this summer's vote on the Iraq War Supplemental.

Senator Clinton said little or nothing during the vote to extend FISA.

Senator Clinton said little or nothing on the Walter Reid scandal, even though she sits on the Senate Armed Services Committee.

Senator Clinton has said little or nothing during the current debate on Telecom Immunity.

Senator Clinton has said little or nothing on the possible impeachment of Dick Cheney.

Senator Clinton has said little or nothing on the possible impeachment of George Bush.

Senator Clinton has said little or nothing on the myriad scandals surrounding the current administration. (Yeah, I'm too lazy to list these one-by-one)

Senator Clinton campaigned for Joe Lieberman against Ned Lamont

Senator Clinton proposed legislation to ban flag burning.

Senator Clinton voted FOR the USAPATRIOT act.

Senator Clinton voted AGAINST prohibiting the use of cluster bombs against civilians.

Senator Clinton voted FOR the re-authorization of the USAPATRIOT act.

Senator Clinton voted FOR the Iraq War Resolution.

Senator Clinton voted FOR the Kyl/Lieberman amendment.

~~~~~~~~

I doubt that. Especially about Walter Reid. How about some links. Clinton campaigned for Lamont once Lieberman was no longer a Democrat, the same as most Democratic leaders in the country. Clinton voted for the IWR, and her floor speech was dove-like compared to Edwards who stepped up to cosponsor the thing. Kyl-Lieberman was stupid, but not the earth shattering hyperbolic vote that people try to make it out to be. Where was John Edwards on the Patriot Act. The rest of your post is absurd.

Or were you referring to the number of delegates she's going to end up with?

I'm saving your post :hi:

and all four of them were wrong.

And once the Clintonian filter was finished, you found a way to spin four out of 20 items so that they didn't sound so bad.

And, btw, go ahead and point out those posts of yours. Are they still there?

They weren't parsed. They were exposed as lies. The list is a list of fibs.

I don't know where my post about the list is. I don't recycle my posts usually. Maybe more than once in a day if dupe threads come up about something I really care about. Other than that, I write original stuff. And I don't make stuff up either, like some we know, who scroll the same thing on and on.

a founding member of the DLC I believe.

change it from Clinton's DLC to Edward's DLC...in a message to the 2002 DLC convention:

http://www.ndol.org/ndol_ci.cfm?kaid=106&subid=122&contentid=250711

Nice words, but he still voted for the bankrupcy bill, H1-B visas and the China Trade Deal.

you can always point at something negative on their voting records. Its when they have a pattern of voting that it becomes a big problem, such as consistently enabling the neocon administration war efforts. Many people were abusing bankruptcy when that bill was passed, poor high-tech education in America creates a big demand for H1-B visa foreign workers, and I believe that it was President Clinton who also signed into law a China Trade Deal.

but Hillary Clinton's pattern of voting has been solidly liberal. There's not much difference between the three in the top tier, and yet she's the only one being accused of being a RWer, a centrist, a war monger etc. etc. The only way that I can combat the hypocrisy, is to point out what's behind everyone's rhetoric.

one can appear to be very liberal, and still be hawkish and supportive of neocons in their war efforts. They used to call themselves 'neoliberals'. Look up Will Marshall and his writings for PPI, the thinktank behind the Clinton's DLC. His foreign policy agenda is very similar to that of the neocons, but of course preemptive "aggression" in the Middle East is painted as more of a positive effort for the world population: "draining the swamp of the Middle East" is basically draining out the evil and letting the good of Western influence flow in, similar black and white thinking to that of the Chimp.

I'm sure Sentator Clinton can take whatever Obama has to dish out.

one had poor upbringing by parents.

Booing people is so childing.

Now, flaming them on an internet forum, OTOH...

:popcorn:

nt

and booing someone who could be the first woman president because she used the word change is pathetic.

George W Bush would not be electable if it were.

up..it's too funny. The English are the ones who don't have decorum.:P

Even better is Canadian Parliament. Who says those Cannucks are easy-going and mild-mannered?

and it could turn people off.

It turns me off and I'm an Obama supporter, too.

but I heard the low boos too. They weren't all that loud, so I thought I was just hearing something.

we were seated in the back in the middle of the auditorium. My wife walked around to take pictures during Hillary speech and she heard a few people saying Obama or Bama low during her applause lines.

I saw part of the meeting on CSPAN but not that part.

The link in the original post points to a blog and nothing more. No direct news source or video.

I'm thinking this would've made the news or YouTube, if it had happened.

It sounded like she got booed to me, but somebody else said it was the way the room was made. I didnt hear that sound for any other candidate when the crowd cheered, so Ill go with the blogger saying she got booed. Plus, he was probably there, and not watching at home.

N/T

http://video1.washingtontimes.com/bellantoni/2008/01/hillary_im_ready.html

Its the Washington times, but its still another source



"It goes something like this: Some people think you get change by demanding it, others think you get it simply by hoping for it.


Many in the audience, politically tuned in and knowing she was knocking on Edwards and Obama, started to boo, drowning out her line that draws applause on the campaign trail.


"I think you make change by working really really hard and bringing people together to bring the change that we need," she said, as her fans cheered louder to drown out the boos coming from Obama supporters.


She also drew some hisses when blasting health care plans that don't cover every American, a veiled hit at Obama. Under her plan, "I am not going to leave anyone out," she said.


Then she closed with another suggestion that Obama isn't ready.


"The next president will embody the hopes and dreams of all of us, but I also know they can’t be false hopes," she said, adding, "They have to be ready on day one to do the tough difficult job."


She said New Hampshire voters must ask themselves, "Who can we nominate that will go the distance against the Republicans?"


Waving giant "O" signs, his fans shouted "Obama!" and began to cheer loudly."

and there were some collective groans during Clinton's speech. It appeared the majority of the attendees were Obama supporters.

That's what I thought had probably happened. I'm glad they didn't outright boo her, which would be disrespectful. So far, I've seen only Hillary's supporters do that...outright booes to keep another candidate from speaking - this was at one of the debates, and they booed two or more of the other candidates to try to keep them from answering moderator's questions.

I'm not a bog fan of people who boo at events like this in the same way I thought the Hillary supporters at the Vegas event were equally wrong.

Her dialogue about her "experience" is cerainly worthy of booing about. Stealing her husband's resume to use as her experience certainly deserves at least some scrutiny.

rhetoric of hope and change also deserves some scrutiny.

the accoustics were really strange and a lot of cheering sounded like boo'ing.

I didnt hear that sound for Obama. And it seems like this dude was at the dinner covering it.

as in gangster rapper, homeboy, hollenbeck resident, etc and neither are his supporters. So what does that make Hillary's campaign managers? Penn and Wolfson are more thuglike than anyone in any other campaign!

I don't like that kind of attack on Democratic candidates. I consider it bullying. I don't like to be bullied. It is what thugs do and often in politics those thugs are Republicans, not Democrats. Therefore I sincerely hope this report is wrong.

Your "gangster rapper" comparisons seem to me to reveal something about yourself rather than about me.

I haven't seen any reports of Clinton supporters booing Obama or anyone else at the dinner.

...a candidate for any office lose because of the nature of their supporters.

Say what you want. Right now, especially in primary season, everybody is at everybody else's throat, trying to win for their candidate. It's no worse right now than it was four years ago, especially between the Dean supporters and the Clark supporters.

Primary politics is an ugly thing, which makes it all the more amazing when the parties end up lining up behind their candidate in the end.

Frankly, in any given race the same could be said of just about any candidate. The exception to that is whatever candidate you happen to be working at that point in time--because everybody knows ____(insert name here)______ is so cool he/she poops vanilla ice cream.


Here in Illinois our politics are a blood sport, and we Dems eat our young. Must be a kinder gentler world where you live because this indignation just amazes hell outta me. Has it not occured to anyone that maybe Hil got booed because the audience there just didn't like her? Is it even remotely possible that she might be seen as a continuation of politics as usual and maybe that is just not what people are interested in right now?

Nah, must be the evil Obama and his awful supporters. Yeah, that has got to be it...



Jeesh.



Laura

Particularly when they're posting anonymously on the internet.

I can understand why they would groan. What the hell was she thinking? :wtf:

You have been visited by the almost-retired DU Spelling Police.

There was a big sign that said "change" right behind her. :eyes:

And weird. :hurts:

I mean she's been running as the more experienced candidate and then a couple-three weeks ago she went to change. :shrug:

No pun intended. :D

You can't be experienced and want change?

But this change theme just started in the last few weeks. Before it was experience.

for change as Obama's?

But she's been running as the experienced candidate until just a few weeks ago, when she switched to change candidate.

she's not only got experience but she also is every bit an agent of change in this country as Obama.

That would be excessive.

Now that's good! :thumbsup:

:rofl:

Hillary got where she is because of who she's married to.

Of course not but it looks completely transparent that she is using it now. Especially since Obama has been using it all along. :puke:

But it would be just as weird if she was saying "two Americas."

Imo, any Democrat that is running should use it. It would be a change from that sorry ass Bush.

with something original. It simply makes her campaign look like they don't know what the hell they are doing.

Nobody does....I can see the riots now!

He tried to steal the "reform" platform from McCain by calling himself, "a reformer with results!" It seemed to work for him. Actually, her whisper campaign against Obama reminds me of Bush's whisper campaign against McCain in South Carolina, too.

there it goes again...Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-Changes.....

Hillary seemed to be getting sounds from some people in the audience that sounded a great deal like boos. I wasn't sure until Bill Richardson came on and suddenly the deep booing sound ended and people seemed to be cheering rather normally.

Richardson, in fact, seemed to be getting a better reaction than Clinton--at least for the parts of the speeches that I heard.

When Obama came on all hell broke loose. That was an Obama crowd for sure.

what goes around comes around.

Tough shit, Hillary. Sucks when you can't plant the entire audience, doesn't it?

debate. Sounds like this audience was filled with Obama supporters. Edwards was smart enough to refuse to play that game. Hillary wasn't.

:thumbsdown:

Illinois, and now Iowa, thank you from the bottom of our hearts for that warm compliment.



Glad to know now who the arbiters of taste are.


:puke:


Laura

They reflect their candidate beautifully.

:hi:

:hi:

And Edwards supporters.

Bruce would be Bruce Springsteen. Whether or not that is what the poster is referring to, I dont know.

Jersey=The Boss.

If I were a betting man, I'll bet the booing is sourced to GOP tricksters. If HRC goes on to be nominated, the "Look at her own people booing her " video (narrated by Chuck Norris, Toby Keith, or Ted Nugent) will circulate via e-mail everywhere. If the booing helps lead to her downfall -- so much the better, as the Republic party ses Obama as a much easier target (think Harold Ford, only nastier, and narrated by Chuck Norris, Toby Keith, or Ted Nugent).

By the way, if you'd like to know the source of some of those annoying pro GOP e-mails you get (like the one saying the Packers would start Deanna Farve because she's been married to Brett, and that gives her the qualifications to lead), you can go to:

http://asmalldoseofreality.bloghi.com

I'd urge all of you to contact all of the non-political (e.g. Classmates) advertisers and let them know how much you appreciate all they do to support the destruction of America.

I didnt hear booing. Obama connected better but Hillary was well received too. Kucinich got a few standing Ovations. Richardson gave a caring demeanor speech that was well received.

Obama was big time inspirationals. Iwas in the middle back of the hall and did not hear a single boo for hillary or anyone else.

it's good to hear from someone who was there.

yourself. and perhaps give some more details of the event if you want. did you get any pictures ? meet any candidates ?

are today? They are giddy at the thought of running against Obama. Does it bother you that the mainstream press and the GOP are heaping praise on Obama?

It shall happen.

I'm more worried about having enough happy Dems. All the corporate money in the world can't buy the election for Hillary and I think the corporatists just found that out. Its hard to win when half of you're own party and all of the opposition party hates you.

Hillary reached out to the vital Ghoul constituency with a walk down terror lane today and then later had the gall to talk about all the great "change" she's gonna bring. Stick a fork in her, she is done.

So what is a good corporatist supposed to do except ignore the wild eyed populist and try to beat that other guy in the GE? I say good luck with that.

HA HA HA Corporate America!

:rofl:

Does it bother you that Hillary is getting more money from defense contractors than any other major candidate?

and don't want her to win the nomination.

But booing her (or any Dem for that matter) at a Dem party dinner is incredibly rude, disrespectful, and in poor taste.

In fact, the article states she received a rousing cheer from her supporters at the end of her address.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080105/ap_po/democrats_new_hampshire

The article also states that although John Edwards wasn't there, Elizabeth Edwards was and made herself available to reporters.

Maybe Clinton was booed, even though the article doesn't say she was. If she was, it was a shitty thing for her detractors to do.

I will relish witnessing their arrogance destroy their own campaign.

Name me a time when a candidate has lost because a few of his or her supporters were rude? Oh wait: Hillary hasn't been doing too well, so you might have a point.

...then they're not fit for office. Not only because they need to be able to operate in front of a hostile audience, but also because they need to understand they're not above such treatment.

And they're not. If they can make decisions that get thousands of my colleagues killed, they can take a few boos when they ask for a promotion, as far as I'm concerned.

Not referring to Hillary specifically; I think all of them should face some jeering in the primaries, because they're going to face it in the general election. Toughen up their skin a bit.

Color me revolutionary....

but it was pretty dumb of Clinton to make a sarcastic crack about "hope" in front of a huge crowd of Obama supporters.

Isn't this the game she was so eager to play?

Are her supporters not the ones who say she should be the nominee because she's a "fighter" whatever the hell that means? But they are disgusted by boos after she planted boos in a debate!

she's losing support amongst Obama supporters.

in Hillary's team. I like her OK---I didnt always like her until I realized that my dislike of her was because her supporters on -line and in the media are so willing to undermine other democrats.
It think she is fine.

From my point of view at the Dinner #1 Hillary gave a well received Democratic policy direction - orientated speech also emphasizing he strengths in combating republicans. Her people had distributed signs that said READY and they were raised when for her applause lines. On the outskirts of the hall Obama people had round Obama signs and sometimes raised those during her applause lines.
On the outskirts a few Obama people said Obama during her applause lines. I didnt hear a single boo.

Possibly---When New Hampsirite Lou D'lessandro (sp?) was introduced there were either boos or calls of "Lou" Otherwise no boos heard by me.

Several times before and after the speeches the announcers asked people to the their seats. People did press to the front to get closer looks at the candidates and take picutres etc.

Obama people walked in a wave with signs Prior to Obama's speech. It was kind of like a fighter's entourage Like other supporters they were asked to take their seats which they did. Several times when Obama hit applause lines Hillary supporters put up their Hillary signs. On the outskirts of hall I heard a lot of Hillary supports talking and sighing in the last third of OBama's speech (approximately)

Overall it was a well behaved crowd with people showing decent respect for each other.

Obama simply "rocked the house"

Kucinich and Richardson gave excellent speeches and were well received.

It is fun to see what somebody who was physically in the room has to say about the experience and what was happening away from the cameras. Sometimes a LOT goes on and nobody realizes it because they only saw it on TV--ya know?

I watched it on TV, and I have to say, I was pretty nonplussed with Richardson's speech. He made some excellent points and has some good ideas, but he is just not the strongest public speaker in that crew of candidates. There is no insult intended in that comment, because frankly, I think this particular group of candidates might be one of the better ones for speeches that we Dems have had in a long time.

You made the comment that Obama "rocked the house" and I want to share with you what my experience was the first time I saw Obama speak live. He was at one of our local Dem dinners very early on in his Senate Primary.

I knew the name, and from the buzz I'd been hearing I was pretty interested to see what I thought of this guy. I'd spent a while during the cocktail hour talking to a couple of his staffers and was impressed with them. I'd talked to a few of the Labor folks about him and everybody was leaning toward one of his opponents (who had not yet even announced!) because they knew this other guy (and he really IS good with Labor)--but they all said they liked Obama and thought Obama's record on Labor was above reproach.

THEN I saw him speak.

He was tackling about stuff I cared about. He was talking about Universal Health Care, and the Middle East (he spoke about not going into Iraq, even THEN, btw) and he hit all the points I wanted to hear out of a guy running for US Senate. More important, he had a crowd of local Dems--that are usually a fairly reserved group of people--standing up and cheering.

I have never seen anything like it, and I'm not sure I will see it again anytime soon.

I told my husband that anybody who could give a stump speech THAT good was not gonna have a problem winning that Primary, and I literally committed to his Senate Campaign on the spot. (It ended up that my husband was the local guy for the other favored Labor candidate in that race, so we had some interesting times at our house during THAT particular Senate Primary.)

Obama came back after he was elected and helped out in our local State Senate race. The candidate he helped is a friend of ours and he's somebody we have worked in several races over the years. When Obama appeared to speak in support of our guy in that race it was a mob scene (it was post Dem Convention and Obama was really on the radar by that point in time.) Again, Obama had that crowd spellbound (including my 9 year old daughter who was on stage with them all for the speeches.)
------

Have fun in NH with your Primary, and I do hope you enjoyed the opportunity to see the candidates in action. It is an amazing thing to see, and I thank you for telling us about it on here.


Laura

speech -- too bad about his lack of projection It kind of seems like a shame that lack of charisma plays such a role in getting elected, but I guess it does.

Obama was exhausted with a hoarse voice last night and he had a few malpropisms--charisma and energy was intact though. I was in Manchester NH today and talked with a couple other Obama volunteers about this booing rumor. He said -- yes this story is being circulated--We are always working to be unfailingly polite and respectful if for no other reason that we will be trashed for any missteps or negative imagery (in so many words)

That is a cool story about your disagreement with your husband. My wife is very partisan when she likes a candidate (we are both) and thinks I'm disloyal when I say nice about Hillary.

Hubby was working for a good man--even IF this was not my candidate of choice. FWIW, when the local Building Trades Council had a reception for the other guy I went and worked in that kitchen serving food. Hubby was strapped for volunteers for that day. The campaign KNEW who I was but they also know me as a Labor person. That particular day's work was for the sake of my union and my husband (however I stress again, I really did (and still do!) like both candidates a lot.

Maybe we are strange, but my husband and I do not always agree on everything--politics included. We are both folks that have been at it a while and I suspect we are maybe a bit more pragmatic than some. It is fun to work with him on a race, but it is also cool to be working on a race I feel good about. He was an organizer before we met, and I was working specific issues. We were both active in our own right and that has not ended after 15 years together.

For us this has always been about working for issues we cared about and people we respect. It is about the idea of maybe making it all just a little bit better than we found it and maybe working to improve the quality of life here. Yeah, there is some ego involved, but mostly it is about how important it is to just be part of it all. Call it optimism--or self delusion if you like--but I just can't SIT and let it go to hell around me. Neither can he, and that was one thing I admired the first time I met him.

Peace to you and yours.



Laura