Should I abandon my brother and vote for Obama?

My brother is gay. According to Obama, he's not worthy of having the same rights as Hetros. I think I will stand by my brother and vote against Obama.

thanks

on which to vent his vitriol.

I wish Obama would at least apologize.

because you're feeding the Obama supporters fake meme that the GLBT community anger at Obama over the McClurkin affair is partisan based. Which it isn't.

You're borrowing the GLBT's community's real and valid and non partisan anger to use in a partisan manner.

Not cool.

There positions are exactly the same.

more open to Gays, maybe she could influence her husband more.
I love Elizabeth Edwards would like seeing her run.

Edwards is against gay MARRIAGE, so you should then vote for Kucinich, if you REALLY want to walk the walk

Welcome to DU The Ghost.
Don't scare me, bro.

Rather than abandoning your brother. Brothers are harder to find.

that would be news to me.

What a dumb thing for you to tell someone you don't even know that their brother isn't gay. Got proof?

huh? :)

just because he's the in thing now. skip it and vote with your heart.

Because I don't think Obama has much difference with Edwards on this issue. Obama has not atoned for a symbolic mistake that angered many people. But if you look at their policies, there is no difference between Edwards and Obama on gay and lesbian rights issues.

worthy of having the same rights as others. I know there are some issues the gays have perceived and some claims that have been made at Obama of which I am not sure is correct or what exactly they are about, maybe you can enlighten us on that. Thanks.

I think there are some exaggerated claims and all the other stuff that goes with politics of which are not what they seem or perceived or not true at all.

Also, if you have already made your mind up, not sure I understand why you posted other than to tell us you are not going to vote for Obama & that is fine, your right, your choice of which you should go with your own heart.

You make a statement about something you say Obama says of which no facts supporting that other than you.

n/t

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but if you don't realize that, then you should continue fooling yourself.

Obama never said what you are attributing to him, and that only shows that while many of us understand history in the making for all Americans, you will have missed the boat. You opportunity is here and now.....but certainly, like your messiah, you can always say you made a mistake 3 years from now.....when President Obama provides exactly the legislation your brother and millions of others deserve; equal rights for all.

Obama is for social justice, and that is what he worked towards. Edwards talks a good game, but there is nothing in what he did during his 6 year stint in the halls of power that suggests that he reflects any of what you give him credit for.

But keep fooling yourself. Edwards is very good looking and says the words you want to hear. That should satisfy you until you come to your senses.

President Obama will give you a lot for you to rejoice and smile about soon.

till then, carry on!

I stopped reading right there.

I tend to tune them out.

support your accusations.

that's rich!

I believe this poster already has their mind made up and this is just an angle at slaming Obama. Doesn't matter about the facts, etc. Also, the poster has not poster any support for her allegations, just what she says. Do not believe is probably interested.

itsrobert is having a meltdown over Obama beating his candidate.

since youre such an idiot

thanks for the advice.

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If gay civil rights interest you because of your love and support for your brother (which I highly respect) then it seems to me that Kucinich is the way to go.

But Edwards didn't have gospel tours with a known gay hater. That's a big difference, if you ask me.

If Obama is a homophobe, then so are Edwards ("I'm uncomfortable with gay marriage") and Hillary from the homophobic as Hell DLC, who brought us "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" and the Indefensible Marriage Act (as I like to call it)

If you want a candidate willing to stand for full equality NOW, vote for Dennis. Either that, or take your chances with the media-annointed candidates.

But I'm trying to be realistic too. I was thinking of the lesser of three evils when it comes to the candidates and this issue.

... I might think that (of the three media-annointed candidates) the one who has had to deal with discrimination himself, might be the one most likely to understand, and therefore do something about it, when he is able to.

Now that's a gamble, of course. And I could be wrong. In either case, I'm not endorsing Obama, just throwing that fact out there for consideration.

a back seat has been readied for gays by THAT candidate

in the Primaries, might make the others think a bit.

Well stated correct answer, to be precise.

We are both voting for Kucinich. :hi:

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I say make a donation to the Obama campaign in your brother's name.

are the gays working on Obama's campaign abandoning gays ?

why not vote for Kucinich since he is the only one who supports same sex marraige ?

ANY candidate you plan on voting for. Edwards and Obama hold the exact same view when it comes to gay marriage.

And for the record, as a lesbian, I don't believe the government should recognize marriage at all. ALL unions recognized by the government should be civil unions. Churches or other entities can 'sanctify' the union however they see fit.

Obama has called for the entire repeal of DOMA, while Edwards has not (unless he has flipped flopped on that since the debate where this came up).

Both said they are personally against gay marriage, but Obama said that civil unions should be recognized FEDERALLY and states should be forced to recognize a civil union from another state, but that MARRIAGE should be reserved for religious institution.

Edwards has not called for states to recognize other state's civil unions.


Thus, under Obama, Gay rights will be EXPANDED

under Edwards, nothing will change.

in the primary anyway.

If he does become our nominee, I will have to vote for him because the alternative is even more frightening.