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College Liberal Donating Member (561 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:40 PM
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What's wrong with Clinton tonight?
Why is Hillary going after Obama so hard? I don't think she is going to win over any voter tonight. I would even go so far as to say, she looks catty. She needs to grow up. Geez....

Nobody likes negativity, or do they? :shrug:
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:40 PM
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1. desperation n/m
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:41 PM
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2. what a load of sexist crap
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shoopnyc Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:42 PM
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10. exactly.
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College Liberal Donating Member (561 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:42 PM
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12. Oh Please
I am a bigger feminist then either Clinton or dare i say it -- You?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:42 PM
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13. Are you watching what I'm watching? She was miffed. nt
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:48 PM
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19. Yes she was
Even if she had not said a word, her body language spoke volumes.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:41 PM
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3. The media isn't giving her top billing
She didn't win in Iowa
and She doesn't lead in the polls in NH
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:41 PM
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Oh come on, everybody loves a militant-wannabe!
:party:
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shoopnyc Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:41 PM
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4. I think she needs to mess it up with them...
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:41 PM
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5. Desperate, she has to score points, but she's failing.
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shoopnyc Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:43 PM
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14. Not in my opinion. She needs to "bring it".
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:41 PM
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6. catty?
Men go negative all the time, but when a woman does it its called catty? I don't like that double standard. And I'm an Edwards supporter.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:42 PM
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11. Oh Jesus, I called rommney catty earlier today
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:43 PM
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15. OH please....
this is not an issue to throw the sex card. Did you see that exchange? She attacked Obama clearly and used Edwards as a shield. It was catty and pitiful. If Obama did the same it would also be catty.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:44 PM
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16. It carries a different meaning when directed at a woman
we are better than that. Just say she looked foolish.
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College Liberal Donating Member (561 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:46 PM
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17. Thank you
I agree.... It was so sad to watch live :(
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:41 PM
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7. She tried to get Edwards to side with her and gang up on Obama. It failed miserably.
He's aligning with Obama, BIG TIME!
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College Liberal Donating Member (561 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:52 PM
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21. And they claim that Obama is not ready for prime-time
:eyes:

Did she pay attention in Law School? The first rule of business is: Don't ask questions or make charges unless you know how the person you are trying to align with will be on your side. She is worse then a rookie :shrug:
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:41 PM
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8. She's not at her best
She's probably overtired -- everyone has been pulling 18 hour days for weeks now. Maybe she needs a good long nap.
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CarbonDate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:49 PM
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36. A cat nap?
:hide:
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:41 PM
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9. She is behind, and she has to fight back.
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ripple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:47 PM
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18. That's what candidates do when they're down
And she only has three days to get through to New Hampshire. If Obama wins New Hampshire, her chances of getting the nod will grow immensely slimmer. Yesterday, she spouted some pretty appalling 9/11 fear mongering to tout her experience. It seemed to be right from the Rove playbook- it was pretty disturbing to hear a democrat trying to sell that shit to democratic voters.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:49 PM
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20. HRC ads will start in NH attacking Obama on Sunday
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:54 PM
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22. Are you sure they rolling out attack ads? Link?
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:01 PM
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25. I personally spoke with Major Garret of Fox, outside of the Hillary event
At the high school.
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College Liberal Donating Member (561 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:56 PM
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23. I think Hillary will lose
She was way off her A-game tonight....
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:02 PM
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26. I hope so, but not so fast.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:58 PM
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24. What you meant to ask, is what's wrong with Edwards. He's pathetic tonight.
It's clear that he's just there to try and pile on whenever there's a chance to go after Hillary. I guess he thinks that'll go over with the NH voters or something. Hillary and Richardson are at least making sense. Obama is handling himself pretty well, too. I didn't realize it until tonight, but John Edwards is done. All he can hope for is that Obama would ask him to be his VP running mate, but we all know Obama ain't about to that if he gets the nod.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:09 PM
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27. "she looks catty" What college taught you that, "liberal"?
:puke:
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:13 PM
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28. She must go after him and challenge stands on issues that they differ on...
this is what ALL the candidates should be doing. Not calling names or just snarking at random, but CHALLENGING their oppponents on specific issues. And that is what they are doing, without the help of Biden they have risen to the challenge and I for one commend them for this tonight.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:31 PM
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29. She's shrill and combative
Neither is good for any candidate.
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College Liberal Donating Member (561 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:35 PM
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31. She looks really sad
I almost feel sorry for her. Not....
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:37 PM
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32. I know..I'd never
feel sorry for anyone who uses human life as political pawns.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:43 PM
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33. The feeling I get from her (IMHO
that she's pissed that she even has to go through the primary and listen to her follow candidates. This is her destiny, damnit!

She turns me off in a big way.
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College Liberal Donating Member (561 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:55 PM
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38. Perfectly stated
I could not agree more. She is royalty, dammit. Don't we know this? :eyes:
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:33 PM
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30. She looks angry to me
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:44 PM
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34. She's tough. loved.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:45 PM
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35. Because he's now considered the frontrunner.
Remember when they all went after her? (Actually, they still do.)
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CarbonDate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:56 PM
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39. Absolutely.
Obama should be vetted. He should have to go through the fire. Just like Hillary had to. If he can stand up to the heat, then he's obviously a stronger front runner than she was.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:52 PM
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37. Gee- she points out his hypocrisy about lobbyists
Edited on Sat Jan-05-08 10:52 PM by depakid
and makes several other substantive points about his record, and she's "catty" or desperate?"

Tell you what, some of these comments from Obama supporters tonight reonforce what I've suspected for some time.

That campagaign resembles a cult of personality, where people look to words and ignore the actions.
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