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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:52 PM
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Obama gets stupid on Iraq, sorry that is the only accurate description...
He first gave reduction of violence credit to the surge, then he said that his plan would be a redeployment to send message to Iraq gov't that they must shape up, BUT he then used the example that the violence declined as a result of the Democrats taking over Congress(hmmmm) in 2006 which caused the Sunni warlords to start working wwith the US. Ignoring completely that they began doing so only after the US began paying HUGE amounts of $$$ and furnishing the individual warlords with US arms.

This was a the WORST response so far concerning Iraq. If Edwards and Clinton don't make hay with this blunder perhaps neither of them should be president either.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:54 PM
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1. I think that's called a vote of "present" on the Iraq situation.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:55 PM
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2. You owe us a negative Hillary thread. You've started ones against everyone else so far.
:eyes:
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:58 PM
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5. when she goofs up you can bet your ass I will post it, I am trying fro simple commentary...
I was a Biden supporter and am not leaning nor will I support at this time any single candidate in the primaries....my sole goal is to see a DEMOCRAT in the WH in 2009
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Think82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:57 PM
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3. I dont know if that's true or not... All I know is I wish Joe was on stage tonight.
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:06 PM
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13. Hear! Hear! but we old Bidenites can maybe help bring some common sense and even a bit of knowledg
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shoopnyc Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:58 PM
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4. None of his foreign policy suff makes sense...
...Thom Hartman for president!
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:58 PM
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6. I think you need to clean the wax out of your ears
Edited on Sat Jan-05-08 09:58 PM by BrentTaylor
or rewind your DVR
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:58 PM
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7. Your teevee is seriously broken
That's the second time that I've seen you completely mischaracterize what Obama said. :crazy:
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:58 PM
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8. "violence declined as a result of the Democrats taking over Congress"
That was a brilliant answer on his part even if there are no facts behind it. Sorry, but he will score some points on that exchange.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:59 PM
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9. You completely misunderstood what he said
He said that the surge with 30,000 more troops in would decrease violence for a short time and bring it back to 2006 levels. He said we have gone full circle. He is correct.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:01 PM
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11. It's a good thing for those
of us who aren't watching to read all the posts and not just assume the OP knows :wtf: he's talkin' about.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:01 PM
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10. he DID make the case that the surge is working nt
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:04 PM
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12. K&R for Obonics...
thats when you say one thing but mean nothing.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:12 PM
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14. His position is that the surge made violence go from horrendous to intolerable.
Edited on Sat Jan-05-08 10:13 PM by AtomicKitten
To say the military surge is having zero effect in his whack-a-mole game would be disingenuous. He has explained very clearly and thoughtfully that that isn't the point, that that isn't the mission statement for the surge, and that it's time to get the hell out of dodge.

His position is not only truthful, it is right-on.
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