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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:33 PM Original message |
I was leaning Edwards, but I'm voting Obama. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
1. hahahahahahaha..yeah right. eom |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
16. I resent what you're insinuating. |
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aein (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
36. Do you have anything useful to say. Like, you know, defending your candidate? |
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surfermaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
72. Well tell us how progressive Obama record is |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #72 |
92. "only one that can defeat any candidate thrown at him" |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
2. Do what you must |
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aein (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
37. Almost every Senate Democrat has voted to fund it. Even people who voted against the original... |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. It doesn't matter what everyone else did. MOST everyone else voted for the IWR |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. Apples and oranges. Dealing with the mess the pro-war people voted for is totally different |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Actually it isn't |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Lots of smart people WEREN'T fooled. And others voted for it for political reasons. |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Where is the progress on that? n/t |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 03:27 PM Response to Reply #53 |
78. He TRIED. Would you ask where the progress was if he had voted against the K/L amendment? |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 07:39 PM Response to Reply #78 |
91. Why get all huffy about asking the progress of something that I have seen the Obaman's tout |
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surfermaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #48 |
75. You go horse |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 07:31 PM Response to Reply #48 |
88. nobody was fucking fooled |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 08:00 PM Response to Reply #48 |
93. Hey, I'm an Edwards fan ... |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #39 |
66. The heroes: |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
3. Edwards re-invented himself. Obama is who he always was--that's why I'm |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. "Reinvented" were you one of the ones who tarred Gore with that phrase? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #5 |
24. Uh...no. I wasn't a big Gore fan, though, for other reasons--but I did vote for him. |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Obama voted for the bankruptcy bill |
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maximusveritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. That's just not true. He voted against it n/t |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Excuse me. I heard it on the radio this morning, but you are correct |
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Benhurst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
40. "Obama is who he always was... ." |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #40 |
49. You're comparing Edwards (and Hillary) with Romney in defense of "re-inventing" oneself? |
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Benhurst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 03:57 PM Response to Reply #49 |
83. To boldly reinvent where no man has gone before, is a bit much, and |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 07:08 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. You're the one who named Romney as someone who has "evolved." |
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Benhurst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:49 AM Response to Reply #85 |
94. Obama's voting record is at times politically convenient. |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #40 |
71. And you're holding that against him? |
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Benhurst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #71 |
81. Whose holding it against him? |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
4. Obama has voted for Iraq War since getting to Senate. He is only antiwar when making speeches. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. bullfuckingshit. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. You're right that he didn't vote for the bill, BUT... |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
38. Apologize. Obama is the BSer not me: Read it and Weep: Obama defends war vote |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #4 |
20. Not. |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
25. Yes he has. |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
7. Obama won't be able to deliver either... |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Yes, he will be accountable to his half a million individual donors |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
30. 47,643 actually, not half a million |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 01:24 PM Response to Reply #30 |
41. 351,000 as of october I am sure its much higher now but way to get it wrong |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #41 |
51. opensecrets.org is where I got that info |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. You didnt even do the math |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 01:32 PM Response to Reply #13 |
43. He will be accountable to his big money donors. |
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Ninga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
8. How do you feel about Obama voting yes to continue funding the war? And how |
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maximusveritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. Every Senate Democrat has voted for funding |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. Lame. Obama has voted for all the legislation aimed at getting us out of Iraq |
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Ninga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. He didn't step up to the podium and give a speech to like or dislike, and so what |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #18 |
44. Obama voted for the funding to keep us there but he doesn't tell his supporters. |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
23. Not great. |
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Ninga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:55 PM Original message |
dupe - sorry |
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Ninga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. what has he led on as a Senator????? |
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peacebird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
11. I don't think that Obama has done anything "brave" or shown any leadership on Iraq |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. Obama never voted on Iraq. |
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peacebird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. I didn't - I told you I didn't think he had shown any bravery or leadership.... |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #29 |
74. Yes...because bogus, cherry picked intel... |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
12. I was leaning Edwards, and I caucused for Obama... |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Thanks, and you're right! |
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VenusRising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #12 |
58. Actually, Edwards is the only candidate that beats |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
21. Absolutely how I feel, on every single point. Thanks for putting it so |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
22. Very good |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
27. But |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. His opposition was on the record in 2002. |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #32 |
45. Maybe because Edwards was in the Senate then, as soon as obama got in the Senate he voted pro war. |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. Not true. |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. For the same reason Obama has lacked courage on Iraq votes since getting to senate? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #56 |
73. not so. All of the senators who voted against the war |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 03:53 PM Response to Reply #73 |
82. My issue with Obama as candidate is he highlights antiwar stance before he had to vote on it |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. One didn't have to be in the senate to make their views heard on |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
31. If I wasn't supporting Clinton, |
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aein (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
35. This is exactly how I feel. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
42. No president will ever be more progressive than their rhetoric. |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 07:37 PM Response to Reply #42 |
90. vote for someone who's going to correct the mistake he made |
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frogmarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
47. Edwards doesn't swing with |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #47 |
55. I disagree. |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. I would think running to the center and giving few specifics is winning strategy in America. |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. So far so good. |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. But he sure isn't running to the center or pandering to corporations. |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Because he knows he can't. |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Obama is running to the center. |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Good move on his part. |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. Uh he is voting as Bush requested --for war. He's ceding ground to the right on |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. You're right about SS, wrong about the war. |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #69 |
79. What would you want him to do re social security ? (I'd like to keep writing to his campaign on this |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. I like to see how people evolve. Obama was against the war, now he is for it. Edwards was for the |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Obama has worked consistently in the Senate to tie funding to withdrawal. |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. But he voted for the Bush appropriation request for the war. |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. He voted for a version that tied funding to withdrawal. |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #70 |
77. I want him to keep his word about being against Iraq War. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #47 |
76. omg |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
80. Yeah, I have a different take |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. Second that. |
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Tennessee Gal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
86. You are dead wrong. |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
87. Checking records - always healthy. Well thought out. |
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ngant17 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
89. Very well said, my feelings exactly |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
95. excellent observation. Actions speak louder than words... The brilliant |
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