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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:55 PM
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Bill Clinton complained that New Hampshire got it wrong by having its primary so soon after Iowa.
Do you think he'd be complaining if Hillary WON Iowa? He also complained, falsely, that Obama got a free pass, never being asked about his "different positions" on the Iraq war (he's one to talk after claiming he was against it from the beginning) when Tim Russert asked him about it on MTP and Bill called and THANKED him for it! (No link-I heard it on MSNBC this morning). How sad that Bill Clinton is ruining his legacy like this.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:56 PM
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1. Would've been peachy if she had won Iowa, though
:cry:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:59 PM
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Of course it would've been. They thought it was great (to their advantage) when Hillary was leading
It's so sad that Bill has been reduced to this.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:59 PM
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2. Wasn't he in favor of Florida moving its
primary up? Hmmmmmm......

He wouldn't be grousing, either, if Hillary had won Iowa.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:59 PM
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3. Aaw, he thinks Bush should get the benefit of the doubt
So I think we can give NH the benefit of the doubt.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:06 PM
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11. Touche,
sandnsea!~
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:59 PM
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4. Well, I don't think he's ruining his legacy by supporting his wife
very vigorously. But, I do think he was in full support of Iowa and New Hampshire and I don't recall him publicly asking Bill Gardner to hold off on New Hampshire's primary. (Why didn't he ask Michigan to not move forward - b/c if Michigan would have stayed put then NH would have stayed put and Iowa would have stayed put).
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:02 PM
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9. It's HOW he's supporting his wife...
seen as a whiner and a liar.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:07 PM
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14. Too bad he's out there lying
while suporting his wife..kinda ruins the whole "legacy" thing.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:59 PM
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5. When did the Big Dog turn into such a whiner?
:shrug:

I blame the influence of Bush I. :(
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:01 PM
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7. He has been very vocal n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:01 PM
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8. When Hillary started slipping due to her own mistakes...
I don't think it was due to Bush 1's influence.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:08 PM
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16. When his wife started losing
her inevitability. But, the lying came waaaaaaaaaay before.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:00 PM
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6. Both Clintons Are Getting *Really* Weird Lately
I guess they're not used to losing.

C'est la vie
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:03 PM
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10. Exactly...
I fear what they'll try to do to him if he keeps winning like this.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:10 PM
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18. I think they were really
weird before..we just didn't have the opportunity to see it up close and personal.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:06 PM
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12. Whining in victory. Stomping them when they're down.
Oh, we have so much to look forward to, don't we?

Tell me again how this will be a change from Republican rule?

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:11 PM
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19. Huh?
"Tell me again how this will be a change from Republican rule?"

If Obama wins it will be a HUGE change from Repub. rule!
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:06 PM
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13. Well, I Agree With Him
it is too soon.

The primaries should be more spread out, not so our candidate is decided before we know who is going to the Super Bowl.

I do question his reason for bringing this up now, though.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:12 PM
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21. Do you REALLY have to question why he's bringing it up now?
Isn't it obvious?
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:07 PM
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15. The way Bill Clinton has sometimes been off-message in this campaign,
makes me wonder about what it would be like in a two-Clinton White House.

What happens when there are two Presidents (a current and a former) in the White House the first time they disagree on policy?

Would Bill's loyalists in a Hillary Clinton administration lobby Hillary's cabinet members? Would Bill give doubt to Hillary's position with the press?

A few times this campaign I've wondered if Bill wasn't subconsciously undermining her campaign, as if he were thinking, "Hey, I'm the star in this family. I'm the President Clinton."

The potential for mischief with two such large personalities in the White House is there and, I think, worth considering.

I don't say this with fake "concern" for the Clinton campaign but with real concern for what it could mean for the country.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:15 PM
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23. Many people have wondered the same thing...
yesterday a TH (I forget who) said that it's against the Constitution for a president to serve more than two terms and a Hillary win would be bordering on breaking that amendment.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:23 PM
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25. Dang, and I thought I'd come up with this
all by my lonesome. :)

What's TH?

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:29 PM
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26. Think of it as
GMTA. :D
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:52 PM
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27. I will!
Thanks. :)
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:09 PM
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17. Bill should just give his support to Edwards.
That ought to take care of it.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:11 PM
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20. That's funny..
cause they're acting like it's them or no Dems.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:13 PM
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22. DESPERATION!
:applause:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:17 PM
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24. EXACTLY.
:toast:
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