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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:46 PM
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I Have Never Seen Polls So Wrong In My Life
Pollsters have a lot of egg on their face...Zomby has a whole omelet on his...

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN0433304720080108
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:48 PM
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1. Even Clinton's INTERNAL polls showed her losing and losing badly..
isn't this just remotely reminiscent of something... a few years ago, and 8 years ago...?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:39 PM
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4. But they understood the distortions that exist for her and black candidates. nt
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:53 PM
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11. So why were they wringing their hands today.. and shaking up their campaign.. and calling
James Carville and Paul Begalia.. and trying to decide whether to skip SC and NV or not? I'm seriously just asking.. This is a flashback. Look at the faces of the media, assholes they are, yes.. but they don't know what happened. I remember them saying some of these exact same lines in 2004, and in 2000. Republicans polling was spot on. Why?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:24 AM
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12. You plan for all contingencies. You don't base your strategy on winning, especially...
if you haven't won anything.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:54 AM
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13. .
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:40 PM
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5. I know what you are suggesting...
but why don't you just spit it out and say what you mean?

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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:49 PM
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10. Hate to rain on your parade, but I support Edwards.
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:43 PM
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6. Oh stop..competant pollsters were warning to beware of "surge" polling
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 11:44 PM by KennedyGuy
but too many were caught in rock star mentality to listen.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:38 PM
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2. This former pollster has been warning people ALL week that HRC and black candidates...
have unique polling patterns.

But did people listen to me? Noooooooo...
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:32 AM
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16. My Dad lives in NH and siad that at the end of the process
some NH residents are SO sick of the phone calls, etc. that they tell the pollsters what they think they want to hear. So figure that into the calculation.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:38 PM
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3. zomby.. LOL
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:44 PM
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7. Me neither...CNN said the Obama camp saw a 16-point swing in the women vote
from yesterday to today, from plus 3 to Obama to -13. If that's true, the crying incident obviously played a huge role. The other point was it may have led many women to conclude they needed to support her or her candidacy was dead and they didn't want to see that happen.

Still lots more to understand about what happened here. The only poll that was even close was 7News/Suffolk.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:46 PM
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8. I believe the pollsters.
Where there is smoke there is fire. All the studies I am aware of shows the pollsters are right, and the voting machines are wrong.

I am an Edwards supporter. However, I am commited to truth and justice.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:48 PM
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9. truth & justice are sooooo pre-911!
:sarcasm:
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SoCalDemGrrl Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:23 AM
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14. Strange- how since 2000 polls are always wrong..something stinks in NH
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:27 AM
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15. 2 days before the primary there was like 40% saying
they were either undecided or could change their mind.
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