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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:23 PM
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"You helped me find my voice"
I thought Clinton's acceptance speech was great. When she talked of voice, it recalls the great feminist psychologist Carole Gilligan. If she has found her own voice, she'll be a far, far better candidate. Let's hope that's the case. Let's hope she really does take control of her campaign and starts speaking her mind, as she started doing in the last few days.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:24 PM
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1. Oh puhleez....
....:puke:
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:25 PM
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4. How sweet.
I'd expect nothing less from you.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:27 PM
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7. Glad not to disappoint...
...you know, because it's all about you....

:eyes:

It was a canned line at the beginning of a canned, poorly written speech...
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:33 PM
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11. Sweetie I'm flattered!
To think that YOU would think it's all about me!!

That's like being nominated for a People's Choice Award and losing to Pia Zadora!

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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:38 PM
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14. LOL!!!
See, I'm old enough to remeber who Pia is/was...!!!
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:26 PM
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after "35 years of experience"
she just now found her voice?
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:28 PM
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8. If she hadn't "found her voice" by now...
...she doesn't have one to find.

:puke:

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LVZ Donating Member (632 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:16 AM
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19. Too bad she can't find a better tone for her voice. n/t
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:25 PM
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2. Fired up and ready to go, for Clinton!
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:25 PM
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3. It was a brilliant opening to her speech. nt
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:26 PM
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5. Giving the voters the credit went against the "diva" stereotype of her and was brilliant nt
nt
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:26 PM
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6. I thought she started off well
I really hope that she has found her voice and that she'll follow it more from here on out. I felt the rest of the speech didn't quite live up to that line, but that's okay. :)
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LVZ Donating Member (632 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:33 PM
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9. I wish she could literally learn to 'control' her voice
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 11:41 PM by LVZ
Her speech started off well but when she gets into the edge of shouting it is far too strident and off-putting. When she starts to sound vocally like the female version of nemesis Chris Matthews, her voice can really be annoying.

Hillary needs to learn to control the tone of her vocal output. The Clintons have all kinds of Hollywood friends - why not get some vocal advice or training? Take a note from someone like Oprah Winfrey - strong, clear voice but never strident.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:33 PM
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10. Best campaign line to date: "I listened to you and I found my voice"
nt
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:35 PM
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12. She has been involved in politics her entire life and she just found her voice?
Doesn't that tell anyone else that something is seriously wrong with this woman? Either that was another baloney pandering line or she is someone who has no inner sense of steady purpose.
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:38 PM
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13. She's packaged
That's what I think has made her unlikeable. If she can be real, she'll be much better, but only time will tell. I think she has an inner sense of purpose, but campaigns are like football games; the goal is to win, not to be honest. I support Obama, but have long recognized he just talks in platitudes without saying much. I support him because I think platitudes work. Just as Reagan won on meaningless phrases like family values, Obama was doing well on equally meaningless expressions like hope and change.
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LVZ Donating Member (632 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:50 PM
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18. I agree. It is good to see balanced comments on DU once in a while. n/t
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 05:52 AM
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20. yes, and when she's "real" she wins
the big hoopla about her supposed crying only helped her.

I've said for many years that that the Clintons benefit every time they're attacked.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 05:54 AM
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21. As I said on a previous thread...
...HRC has more "voices" than Rich Little...and not one of them genuine.

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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:11 AM
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23. Hillary is finding her public national voice
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 07:12 AM by Tom Rinaldo
Hillary was pounded repeatedly in the right wing media throughout the Clinton Presidency and after. While she was First Lady, it was difficult for Hillary to find an appropriate perspective to return fire from - Americans traditionally are cool toward overtly partisan First Ladies. The one time she really did, when she talked about the vast right wing conspiracy out to get her husband, she got raked over the coals for saying that, and since she wasn't a candidate or in office herself, she couldn't really fire back.

Hillary started to develop a public voice running in New York State, in particular interacting with upstate New Yorkers who had been suspicious of her. But New York is a relatively cosmopolitan Blue State, even if it is largely rural. On the national stage Hillary confronted an image of herself peddled by the Right of her being a Femi-nazi hyper liberal murderess. She decided to adopt a very measured public personna to counter that, to seem as un extreme as possible to put those lies to rest.

Hillary never had trouble finding her strong voice as an advocate for children and youth throughout her life. There she fought for a cause to win for those who needed her help, it didn't involve having to unlock the puzzle of how to win an election. Now she is letting herself be herself more in front of the nation. I think losing in Iowa using her campaign handlers strategy was a liberating moment for Hillary, as difficult as it must have been for her to take.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:40 PM
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15. Oh dear, now Katrina is swooning over her.
:puke:
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:41 PM
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16. She's an introvert
and a policy wonk extraordinaire. Her back was against the wall and it broke her out of her shell.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:43 PM
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17. She did find it, IMO. But she could lose it again.
She stopped playing it safe for a while. Obama and Iowa made her a better candidate. And I think NH is going to do the same for Obama.
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 05:57 AM
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22. Now that she's the media annointed front runner again
I would expect that she will go back into her more comfortable "wooden" mode.
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